Re: Can't install ANYTHING on Linux . . . HELP!
From: NitrousHHH (nitroushhh_at_n0spamhotmail.com)
Date: 10/27/03
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:48:42 +0100
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:30:45 -0800, Jon wrote:
> OK, if I wanted to be humbled... after working for several years as a
> senior technical support specialist for Microsoft OS, I thought I knew
> computers inside and out. Now I've decided to play with Linux... how
> hard can it be, right. I feel like I've never touched a computer
> before in my life. Either this speaks poorly for me or tells you the
> quality of the people doing MS support ;) Regardless, so far I like
> what I see, except I can't seem to install anything. I tried to
> update Kopete, now when I run the program it closes after I try to
> logon, same with GAIM. I got Realplayer working, but I can't get the
> java vm to work, which of course means I can't see web pages running
> java applets.
>
> So here's what I have. I downloaded the latest copy of from Sun, ran
> it, everything seemed to be going ok, but no web pages ( I used sun's
> autoinstall package). I check out a few help files, which tell me to
> copy the directory to my usr/local directory, and then edit my path to
> point to the new directory. I do all that, and still no Java.
>
> I'm lost confused, and crying in the corner.
>
> I can't believe it's really this hard installing things on a linux
> box, but I'm having a devil of a time doing it.
>
> PS - Can't get my NVIDA drivers to install either, so I'd only using
> the software renderer for OpenGL. Any suggestions about what I'm
> doing wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance..
>
>
> Jon
If you're staring something like kopete and it just gives the hourglass
for a few moments and then disappears then its worth checking if the
application is running but you can't see a window. Press ctrl-esc and
this will display the system guard process window. You may see the kopete
process once of more times in the list but you can't see the window. So
kopete has had a problem and doesn't display a window for you to close. As
kopete isn't an important process you can just kill them. Carefull not to
kill anything else. Wait a few moments for them to disappear from the
process window. Then try to start it again. I found this happened with
kopete because my chello internet connection was so poor.
Someone might post a neater/cleaner way of sorting this out but this will
move you forward.
On openGL, the online update in suse watcher installed nvidia driver
perfectly for me. If you're going to perform it manually you'll probably need to
boot without the gui, thats what i did last time, and follow the
instructions.
Can't help much with the java. But for mozilla there is some sort of config to
run to pick up the existance of java. Doing a search of this newsgroup on
google groups may provide an answer.
If you buy suse it comes with realplayer, java and flash and they work
fine with mozilla. So good to get you started but you don't learn so
much. :-(
if you're not installing things from the install cd's then look for suse
rpm's if possible from the net. If you browse the directory you've downloaded to and
click the rpm file you will see it displayed in a package manager. This
will let you see what files are in it and where they are going. Then
click 'install with yast'.
Its a bit of a shock linux but worth the effort to get going. You'll soon
be fixing alsorts of stuff and it will stay fixed unless you unfix it ;-)
hopefully someone can give you more specific advice but I hope I've
helped a little. Have fun.
Nitroushhh
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