Re: ongoing boot loader issues
From: Valentín Guillén (usenet1_at_myrealbox.com)
Date: 03/31/04
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:10:07 -0700
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:05:08 -0500, Paul Fedorenko wrote:
> Is this just a problem with SuSE, or will have the same thing if I switched
> to Mandrake, Debian or Fedora?
Lets start off here with the understanding that I DON'T CARE if you use
SuSE, or even if you choose to use winblows, exclusively!!!!!
Now then, that off my chest, what we have is a failure to understand
partitions and partitioning, and how different OSs treat and use
partitions.
> First of all, I'd just like to point out that I'm getting very frustrated
> with this whole thing. They say Linux is stable. They say Linux is a
> viable desktop alternative. I agree. I've used it in the past, and I know
> several other people who use it exclusively. It seems to have an astounding
> uptime and low rate of crashing. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be one of
> those blessed with a stable system.
>
> My problem? LILO and GRUB, it would appear.
>
> In the past 2 months, I've tried installing SuSE 8.2 on my system's second
> hard drive. At first, I had an old 7 GB drive, which turned out to be
> pooched. So I got rid of it, and replaced it with a bright, shiny, new 30GB
> puppy made by Maxtor. Ok. New hard drive, tested out, drive works fine.
> No problems whatsoever. Install SuSE, reboot. "GRUB read error" Something
> about not being able to read stage two. Reinstalled, tried again. Started
> up beautifully. 3 times. I did a system update, downloaded a bunch of
> patches. Then? Same thing. Reinstalled. Tried LILO this time, installed
> in the MBR of hdc1 which is where Linux lives. Set up Windows XP's boot
> manager to see the Linux partition using a file called bootsek.lin.
> Everything worked. I did another system update, and rebooted. Screen
> starts filling up with the string 01 over and over and over and over, ad
> nauseum.
>
> Wiped out the hard drive. The following operating systems like, respect and
> use the hard drive with no complaints:
>
> Windows 98
> OS/2 Warp 4
> Solaris 2.7
> BeOS
>
> The problem is not the hard drive. the above 4 operating systems were used
> constantly and rebooted several times each over a number of days to make
> sure everything worked fine. I had the hard drive tested by other people.
>
> So I ask you people. Why do GRUB and LILO keep failing on me? I know this
> isn't a common thing, because I used to use LILO with an old RedHat 7.0
> installation I had a few years back. I've rebooted the LInux system using
> the install CD, reinitialised LILO. It sometimes worked, sometimes not.
>
I would suggest that if you CHOOSE to use GNU/Linux, of ANY distribution,
that you thoroughly research and ensure that you understand HOW each
operating system creates, uses and manages the different partition types
which it can understand.
Here's my issue with this post:
"They say........."
"They say............."
I don't CARE what anyone says or do not say!!
What GRUB error.....? with specificity!
"I did a system upgrade......." What system upgrade? WHAT did you
upgrade.......from what to what?
"Downloaded a bunch of patches......WHAT was downloaded, and for what
purpose?
Winblows boot manager.....NOW we're getting someplace.......
"Another system update.....What was updated......?
"Is this just a problem with SuSE, or will have the same thing if I switched
to Mandrake, Debian or Fedora?"
Regarding this last question, I can't tell you, because I don't use those
other Distributions, BUT I can conjecture that until you're certain you're
understanding what is happening here with your system, that yes, you will
continue to have difficulties.
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