Re: What is seen in 'Local Network' ? (newbie)

From: AC (aec$news_at_candt.demon.co.uk)
Date: 05/23/04 

Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 23:24:21 +0100

In article <pan.2004.05.18.14.07.55.202845@spamcop.net>, Karen
<karensw@spamcop.net> writes
>On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:01:02 +0100, AC wrote:
>
>>> Also, you have added your Suse user as a
>>>samba user, haven't you?
>>
>> err...?
>> How do I check this please?
>
>Did you even look at:
>
>http://www.project54.com/linux/ng/alt-os-linux-suse-FAQ.txt
>question 12
>
>as I suggested? It has the answers to questions like this.

Thank you for your interest. I am an experienced windows user, but
totally floundering, at present, in linux - suse obviously.

I assure you I am not ignoring anyone's suggestions, although it would
be great if I understood half of what was said! I will soon. I
appreciate your patience.

I certainly did do what you suggested. I thought I explained that in my
response to you in Message-ID: <Se8RJyAF3RqAJAwP@candt.demon.co.uk>
dated 17 May 2004?

 My uncertainty at the time, and to some extent even now, is not (to *my
inexperienced* eyes anyway) covered by 12 which summarises as
12: Samba doesn't work
            I can't see my windows shares
            I can't connect to my windows computer

I was finding that samba *did* apparently work - I could see windows
boxes on my linux box.
However since I could not actually *see* anything from the linux box
displayed on itself, I did not know if I was simply looking in the wrong
place, or had omitted something.

your ref to 12) is a good one it contains a lot, and may be the key to
sorting out much of my understanding, and every time I read it I
understand something more.

Although one question I now have is - what *are* the limits of yast? I
come from a win environment, and although it might sound silly to linux
users, I do not yet know when I *should* be using command line stuff.

And reading and using 12) as a total newbie is a bit like trying to
learn English by reading a shakespeare sonnet.

As it happens I may have not understood that the 'public' file
apparently seen using konquerer after initial installation (suse 9.0),
may not have been a public shared directory or file (samba share[?])

I did not then even have an appreciation of what a 'share' actually
meant. General concept yes. definition, no.

I am still not sure what is a 'suse user' as distinct from a 'samba
user', although things have moved on somewhat anyway. I presume suse
user means the login name used for logging into suse. It took a while of
research to presume that, I do hope it is correct.
 
If yast does not create a samba user semi automatically then I am still
finding my way around. If this is covered in your reference 12 then
please accept my apologies in advance. (And in case you are wondering,
my suse manuals are in the post on their way to me).

I have used yast as much as I apparently can, and have also added a
public shared directory into smbconfig successfully, thanks to another
very detailed post response from another response here.

Some of my problems may have been associated with use of dhcp in my lan,
I am not sure, but I have reconfigured to run the linux box as fixed IP,
outside the (new) limits of the dhcp range. It allows easier simple
trouble shooting.

My persistent efforts variously led to other windows boxes not
functioning on the lan correctly, which was a near disaster for me, and
just for good measure, it happened that I had to completely reinstall a
(win) pc I relied on for daily use - I think I had another (win) problem
surfacing too, anyway. These activities also explain the delay between
this post and yours. And some of my interest in suse.

Not knowing *How* to find my way around linux (suse) I could do almost
nothing, apart from use yast, although I later found how to view a
files' contents, and even then found (even) in root I could not change
it on the fly from konquerer - (so that is what KWhite is for - ok) -
next step and so on.

>> I can login to suse as root or username. I root most of the time at
>> present while I am trying to get the idea of what to do and why things are
>> happening (or not). Samba as set up from yast does not seem to want a
>> username (?)

btw *can* I set up a 'samba username' in yast?

>If you've spent any time here at all, you know that running as a root is
>an extremely poor idea

If I use yast as user1 I find I have no rights to change (samba), hence
root. I can not find out much about what yast offers or does *without*
being root, surely?

I get no fun from using root. It is a fact of life just now. Are you
saying I can change samba as user1, not root?

> and trying to set up samba as root is about as
>insecure an idea as I've read in awhile. I can't in good conscious help
>you do that.

note 1)
Please be clear I will most *certainly* be out of root as soon as I can
do what I need to as user1 (!)
And help in this group is most helpful and much appreciated.

btw, although is it heresy in linux (and I am very glad of that), having
to reinstall is not too big a price to pay for some experience. Coming
from a windows environment I have become quite hardened to it. Just
don't mention it in front of the children please! (see note 1)

>
>Karen
> 

-- 
AC
When you are up to your waist in alligators, it is sometimes a little difficult
to remember that the objective is to drain the swamp

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