Re: Yahoo mail looks bizar in Konqueror

From: John Corliss (jcorliss_at_secrewspam.to#)
Date: 09/01/04 

Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 02:14:40 -0700

Jim Sutherland wrote:

> Howard J. Rogers wrote:
>
>
>>John Doe wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyone have any idea why Yahoo mail (the web interface on mail.yahoo.com)
>>>looks terrible on Konqueror?
>>
>>It's a "feature". They call it "designing for Windows".
>>
>>Seriously: that site is (in all probability) designed to work perfectly in
>>Internet Explorer, since despite a lot of wishful thinking on the part of
>>many, IE still accounts for over 80% of the browsers in use out there.
>>
>>You can do what I did... switch to Firefox for web browsing (it's
>>extremely good... other IE-centric sites such as the Sydney Morning Herald
>>(www.smh.com.au) look awful in Konqueror too, but look fine in Firefox.
>>(Ironic that last week their technology section was all about choosing a
>>non-IE browser!!).
>>
>>It's a shame in one way, because I like Konqueror too. But there are a lot
>>of sites out there that it interprets, er, oddly. It's is almost
>>invariably the sites at fault, not Konqueror, but there you go.
>>
>>So, having switched browsers, the other thing you can do, which is
>>precisely what I did to Yahoo, is to mail them a complaint. If they were
>>to conform to the published standards a little more, this sort of nonsense
>>wouldn't arise.
>>
>>
>>>The buttons are all over the place and placed on top of each other. I
>>>won't bother the group with a screenshot, but can post one if so desired.
>>>
>>>I'm new to SuSe/linux/Konqueror, so are my default settings wrong? Is it
>>>a skin that is applied?
>>
>>None of the above. It's Yahoo targetting its market.
>>
>>Regards
>>HJR
>
> That COULD be the problem. I experienced it (not sure if it was Yahoo, but
> some sites) when I first installed Suse 8.1. But a couple weeks ago I
> installed 9.1, Konqueror 3.2.1, KDE 3.2.1. No problem with Yahoo.com. So
> I think there's more to this particular problem than simply blaming Yahoo
> and suggesting a new browser. Oh, Mozilla didn't work THEN with the
> problem (over a year ago with 8.1).

The deal is, Yahoo makes it's money by advertising. When you use
Mozilla, you can stop popups and block flash etc. more easily than
with IE. Not only that, but I can't get their page to work in Mozilla
under any circumstances. Yahoo won't even work in IE if you block
flash and cookies. They've designed their site (using ActiveX most
likely) in a way that turns off several of their buttons if you don't
allow advertising to appear. So yeah, designed for Microsoft
effectively. And the problem got worse exactly about the same time as
their recent "update" to larger capacities for the accounts. Don't
know if Wine could be used to run IE in Linux and have the site appear
normally, but why would you want to run that leaky garbage anyway?

Probably time to look around for another and better web email account. 

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