Re: Peter Kohlmann LYING SACK OF *** LINUX ZEALOT!

From: Sean Fitzhenry (for_my2222_iiiis_only_at_smpamo.com)
Date: 09/08/04 

Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:43:50 -0400

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:17:53 -0700, phoung quoak wrote:

> A message was posted recently in comp.os.linux.advocacy concerning the
> need for special hardware required for Linux.
> The original poster asked about a Matrox P 650 video board in
> conjunction with Suse 9.1 and was not only ridiculed but accused of
> being a troll.
> A person who calls himself Peter Kohlmann claimed that the Matrox P
> 650 worked right out of the box with Suse 9.1 for him.
> Others questioned this statement but Peter, backed up by his band of
> Linux thugs stuck to his story.
>
> Well, as it turns out Peter was asked to provide proof of his claims
> and he became a thread slinker ignoring, and going on the defensive.
>
> The facts are, PETER KOHLMANN IS A LIAR!!!!
>
> Neither Matrox, nor Suse, nor the Xfree version included with Suse 9.1
> support that card in DUAL HEAD MODE.
>
> This is a prime example of a Linux zealot that will at all costs LIE
> to prevent Linux from being seen as second rate.
>
> Here are some messages from the Suse News Group that confirm that
> Peter is a liar.
>
> ORIGINAL POST--------------------
>
> I decided to have a serious attempt at using Linux with a view to
> switching from XP - which gets more and more expensive and needs to be
> 'activated' - even after you've spent over £100 for it.
>
> So I got SuSE 9.1 pro. The PC is a dual Athlon MP2000+ and it has
> built
> in sound, 3 HD's and a DVD RAM plus a Matrox P650 dualhead graphics
> card, nothing exceptional.
>
> It installed fine and has an impressive range of apps but there is no
> way in the world I can get dualhead working. The Matrox drivers are
> for
> XFree 4.3.0 and SuSE has some odd version of its own - 4.3.99 from
> memory so I can't compile whatever it is that needs compiling to get
> dualhead working. I did raise the question in a Linux news group,
> asking if any of the standard drivers supported dualhead but no
> response.
>
> So, for now I've abandoned Linux.
>
> Windows has had functioning dualhead since 98SE, why is it such an
> issue for Linux? Searching the XFree site for help is a joke (it
> actually runs a Google web search) and XFree still issues a statement
> in the log file that it is experimental and not guaranteed to do
> anything.
>
> I did get dualhead working with an old Matrox Max graphics card but I
> value my eye sight too much to use that.
>
> The install also trashed my MBR so I had to re-install Windows and KDE
> is going the same route as Windows - all things to all men but none of
> them quite finished. Many apps seem to be the same, they start off as
> brilliant ideas until the programmer loses interest and then don't get
> maintained - am I really supposed to entrust my data to apps like
> that?
>
> I don't want to give up on it, the reasons for trying it are still
> valid but somebody, somewhere really needs to stop and think where it
> is going.
>
> When I install I want to just put the working OS on - along with some
> form of working windowing system. When that works I'll put on the apps
> I need. None of the distributions I have tried offer this option
> except
> by ticking/unticking thousands of boxes. Mandrake was a joke, I had to
> dig out an old serial mouse to use that, it doesn't recognise a bog
> standard PS/2 mouse?
>
> What do I do? I can put on an older distribution to get dualhead or I
> can go for a newer distribution and use an old graphics card. I can
> have two mice on my desk instead of just one through a KVM switch.
>
> And where is there a news group that will offer help to a Linux newbie
> - even just to say 'that won't work'?
>
> Well, glad to get that off my chest. I'll think about re-installing
> when I recover from my breakdown.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines - Damerham Hampshire UK
> Posted with XanaNews http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/d7xananews.htm
>
>
> END-----------------------------------
>
>
> PETER TELLING HIS LIES--------------------------------------
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=2popu0Fnhe44U1%40uni-berlin.de&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dp650%2Bgroup:comp.os.linux.advocacy%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D8%26as_miny%3D2004%26as_maxd%3D7%26as_maxm%3D9%26as_maxy%3D2004%26selm%3D2popu0Fnhe44U1%2540uni-berlin.de%26rnum%3D3
>
>
> < snip utter bull*** >
>
> Quit lying. I use a dual-head setup with SuSE and a Matrox out of the
> box
> here.
>
> You are either incredibly stupid to not get it working, or you are
> just
> another lying moron
> --
> If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?
>
>
> ___END--------------------------
>
>
>
> OTHERS TELLING THE TRUTH---------------LINUX DOES NOT WORK WITH THAT
> BOARD!
>
>
>
> The P series is not supported. The G550 is. At least that is the
> latest
> info. The things I find are the p650 is supported in beta of about a
> year ago and only in 2D.
>
> The G550 will only do 3D in single sceen mode. With 2 sceens, it will
> only do 2D.

I was following that thread with some interest because I was considering
purchasing that P650 Matrox video card.
I found it odd that Mr. Kohlmann seems to be the only person on earth that
can make that card do dual head mode with a stock SuSE 9.1 installation.
I made a call to SuSE support and was told that the board does not work
with Suse 9.1 in dual head mode and that I should contact Matrox for
support.

I am looking at 25 desktops that are going to be upgraded from G200 boards
and I need an accurate answer before I waste my money.
Suse says it doesn't work.
It is not in the SDB hardware database.
XFree.org says it does not work.
Google for P650+dual+head+linux shows that nobody has been able to make
this work.
 So I too would like to know how Peter made this work if indeed
he really did?
Peter?
The ball is in your court.
Sean