Re: Linux and WLAN Internet access

From: Paul J Gans (gans_at_panix.com)
Date: 10/11/04


Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:00:22 +0000 (UTC)

David Wright <david_c_wright@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Harold Stevens wrote:

>> In <ckddpl$7k2$05$1@news.t-online.com>, David Wright:
>>
>> [Snip...Re: leaving to see if Linux "improves" in 4 years...]
>>
>>> That's a shame.
>>
>> Depends--the OP seems to want a free Windows clone. That's not what Linux
>> has ever been; I don't think it will be any different in 4 more years. If
>> you want Windows, stick with Windows. We're not here to "fix" Linux to be
>> a clone of Windows, as if Unca Bill has the last word on worthiness.
>>
>> Now, if the OP had mentioned contacts with vendors/developers about these
>> inevitable bugs (did I miss something?), I might be more understanding in
>> the litany of complaints. But you can either pay for support, or pitch in
>> to help the community improve, libre and gratis. Very simple.
>>
>> Linux isn't for everyone--lead, follow, or get the hell outta the way.
>>

>I agree that it depends on the OP and what his expectations are, but I also
>think that in a couple of areas, particularly application installation
>Linux has a way to go.

>I'm not talking about pretty Wizards to take you step-by-step through the
>installation process, but having nothing other than a dependency warning,
>so you download another package to get rid of the dependency, which has
>another warning etc. is not a good situation, apt and YaST get around this
>a little, but there needs to be something done to make things smoother.

>For example an installer script that checks for dependencies and offers to
>download and install the relevant packages for you. This is something that
>has been in place for years on other platforms. Or why can't the author of
>a package include all of the dependencies in his package, then check to see
>if they are installed (or need updating) and install those items
>respectively (with confirmation from the user obviously)?

I like this solution. The problem becomes especially annoying
when the dependency is on a specific version of a package that
is now out of date.

Your solution would seem to be trivial to implement.

>In the mean time, I put up with that, because I find Linux (or in my case
>SuSE) to be a much better platform to work on than Windows.

I'm split. I spend about 80% of my time on linux (and have for
years) but I do a good bit of web development and need Photoshop
as well, so I'm stuck with Windows.

Curiously, I've got a very unstable Windows XP configuration. I'm
going to have to reinstall it. Installing Windows is, in my opinion,
*enormously* harder than installing SuSE. And with SuSE I don't
have to go through the registration hell that Microsoft, Adobe,
and Macromedia put one through.

   ---- Paul J. Gans



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