Re: The grand experiment
From: David Wright (david_c_wright_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/17/04
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:36:55 +0200
sbb78247 wrote:
> Olav Pettershagen wrote:
>> sbb78247 wrote:
>>
>>> good point. it seems that the iso for personal is rather small when
>>> compared to mandrake, slackware and others that strectch acrosss 3
>>> or more cds. i assume they are giving you the other programs on
>>> these cds like open office, video tools, cd tools and such. so
>>> unlike win XP, when you install , you get something other than just
>>> a way to turn the system on and surf the internet.
>>
>> I think most of the productivity software you mention above (e.g.
>> OpenOffice) is included in SUSE personal as well but you will
>> probably miss some networking stuff and all development packages.
>> Development packages are necessary to install software from source
>> code, i.e. if you would like to test software not available as
>> ready-built packages for SUSE - although the need for this is not
>> likely to arise very often as SUSE offers RPM packages for almost
>> everything.
>>
>> Olav
>
> Cool, as a matter of fact, I finally installed the personal iso on an
> antique computer and it seems to work fine. I think I will futz with it
> for
> a few days and then get brave and try it on some hardware that counts! So
> far, so good, it seems that everything I need is there, but it is called
> something a bit different. The learning curve is there, but it is
> managable.
>
> One question about hardware though. Why does it claim that 3d
> acceleration
> is unstable? Right now, this is running on a test box with an ATI Rage
> 128
> Pro with it enabled without a hitch. It amazes me that this runs on an
> old
> BX board/333 Celeron and is usuable. Speed is what is expected, not
> blazing, but not a burp, hiccup or anything. Hell, this personal iso
> found
> the old AWE64 and set it up. Is it really the fact M$ has lied to us all
> these years, or just the fact that decent hardware works under almost any
> condition?
>
> S
Why 3D is classed as unstable, I don't know, unless the drivers aren't the
official ATi driver, for example, and therefore can't be guaranteed 100%
compatible...
"Decent" hardware for Linux is the way to go. Some of the big names (CL,
nVidia etc.) either provide good support themselves, or there are enough
people out there using the kit that good drivers exist. Some products are
don't have such good support... When upgrading existing kit to Linux, it is
just suck-it-and-see, as to whether it is all supported or not. When buying
new kit, do a little research before buying and put together a system and
peripherals that have good Linux support.
You seem to have been lucky. ATi cards often cause big problems, most people
recommend nVidia for Linux as it causes less hassles, usually. There are
probably exceptions on both sides to prove the rule ;-)
Having recently built a machine and started with just the Windows CD and the
SuSE 9.1 Pro DVD, it looks like Windows has a lot to learn in the install
department, but as most people buy complete, pre-configured Windows
systems, that usually doesn't come into the equation. Linux can still cause
some problems, but usually not as many as Windows when installing. Problem
is, most users never install Windows and then complain that SuSE or another
Linux is a pig to install...
Dave
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