Re: WARNING to potential LINUX users
From: markzoom (markzoom_at_digiverse.net)
Date: 10/22/04
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Date: 22 Oct 2004 12:22:54 -0700
Timo Pirinen <pirisisi@dlc.fi> wrote in message news:<2trgheF22ojchU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> markzoom wrote:
> > Timo Pirinen
> >>markzoom wrote:
> >>
> >>>If I want "Mozilla whatever" I go to the Mozilla site. How is a newbie
> >>>supposed to know that it's in the dark recesses of the Suse site????
> >>
> >>How is a newbie supposed to know that Firefox is 'Mozilla whatever'?
> >
> > Because it's usually described as "MOZILLA's Firefox"
>
> No it's not. It is usually described 'Firefox'.
Read any review and Mozilla is mentioned (not Suse).
>
> [clip]
>
> > Type "firefox" in the Suse site's search box and you still won't be
> > told where you can download it, or that you even can.
>
> There are three matches. A newbie would click the aptly named 'SUSE
> LINUX 9.1 (i386)' link which would go straight to download page.
No he wouldn't. Firefox isn't a made by Suse.
He might click an aptly named "firefox download" if it were even
mentioned in his search result, but it's not even mentioned on the
"home user downloads page":
http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/index.html
nor is there any mention of new applications or where to find a list
of which ones one can download from Suse as opposed to from the
originator.
>
> On that download page, a newbie would find:
> 5 Oct 2004 MozillaFirefox: The future of the Mozilla browser.
> RPM MozillaFirefox 0.9.3-1.4 (i586) 7146 kB
(Eer, the version one gets from mozilla would be a more up to date
one, a newbie wouldn't know what "i586" or "rpm" meant and Firefox is
way over 7k)
THIS is "the" download page:
http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/index.html
>
> How can it be so difficult to you, when a newbie has no problems?
Where is a newbie told what an "rpm" is? Why should a newbie even HAVE
to know what an rpm is?
>
> >>The newbie, on the other hand, would open Suse's default
> >>browser Konqueror and enter 'firefox' into the search box of the default
> >>home page, which by some magic just happens to be Suse's website!
> >
> > No, the newbie would search for Mozilla Firefox download on a search
> > engine and find the Mozilla site for the download and no mention at
> > all that one can download it from Suse.
>
> Nah. A newbie would not know how or where to find a search engine in the
> first place. You are trying to give a newbie non-newbie abilities. What
> are you, trolling?
Eer, might that be because links to some are not included with Suse?
I would say the main reasons utter newbies (the ones you are referring
to) first get a puter is to type letters and emails, find information
and/or filth, download music and play games.
The vast majority of *Linux* newbies are windows users, who wouldn't
go to Microsoft to download Firefox.
M.K.
M.K.
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