Re: Copying, license, registration - Suse - summary from emails (long)
From: nothermark (trash_at_cotse.net)
Date: 12/02/04
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:24:48 GMT
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:10:28 +0000, AC <aec$news@candt.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>In article <jjUCw7BoZhqBJAwn@candt.demon.co.uk>, AC
><aec$news@candt.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Liking Suse and wanting to be very clear what the position about copying
>>is, I asked (at the end of September 2004) detail questions of Suse pre-
>>sales and received patient and detailed replies in a short sequence of
>>emails.
>>
>>Note:
>>I asked and was told that it was ok to use the facts offered (but not as
>>a direct quote) for public discussions.
>>The answers also had the caveat that they were neither legally
>>accountable in a rigorous sense nor an official statement from Suse or
>>Novell.
>>
>>Details:
>[...]
>
>After posting the original subject, I have been in further contact with
>the Suse pre-sales and I have found that it is possible to clarify a
>little:
>
>======================================================
>I gather that:
>I am not allowed to produce copies of Suse Linux Personal/Professional
>neither on CD or DVD nor installed on computers and then sell
>without a valid contract with Novell. The reason is, that Novell
>is the only owner of the Suse Trademarks and Logos included in the
>product.
>
>In addition, the product contains many 3rd party components, such as
>Java, where Novell owns the right to distribute and redistribute
>those together with Suse Linux Personal/Professional.
>
>Burning the CDs or copying those on machines and then resell without a
>valid contract with Novell would be breaking the redistribution
>agreements with those vendors.
>======================================================
As a casual drop in I see the same folks spouting the same old
arguements. It's a troll or a demonstration of folks not being
willing to understand what has been said too many times already.
FWIW -
All the major distro's contain non GPL code that is sold as part of
the package. The packagers satisfy the license requirements back to
the folks who own the packages. For GPL purposes the kernel and the
packages are considered independent parts. The kernel is GPL'd,
additional packages may or may not be. Inclusion on the same media
does not constitute agglomerating the packages into a single entity.
Packaging provides a convenient way for the end user to satisfy the
license requirements of the various packages as well as the other
issues involved in getting a lot of software to work together.
Support and license to use are independent of each other. Support is
purchased on a machine basis. Some support is usually included in the
package price of a distribution.
The licenses vary but the bottom line is that you can personally use
it on as many machines as you have but you can't sell it or give it
away to other folks. This is unlike Microshaft that claims you can
only use a copy on the machine it was bought for. Scrap the machine,
end the license. Have two machines, buy two licenses. etc.
If you are not doing personal use you may need to license multiple
copies of some parts of the distribution. Drivers and Office
equivalents come to mind. Read the package licenses for the one's you
use.
>From a practical point of view personal use includes the folks
domiciled with you. It might include your office mate. It doesn't
include 300 employees with their own machines.
this is not a legal opinion as I am not a lawyer. It is a
condensation of reading too many threads like this. Names and theories
are familiar.
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