Re: Why I dumped Linux and Went Back to Windows.
From: Liam Slider (liam_at_NOSPAM.liamslider.com)
Date: 02/24/05
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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:33:30 -0600
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:50:55 +0000, Tom Shelton wrote:
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>>>>> So I tried firefox. I quickly discovered that browsing was so slow it
>>>>> was pathetic. A little research showed I needed to turn off IPV6.
>>>>
>>>> Firefox, while not as peppy as Konqueror, is certainly a nice web
>>>> browser, and while light on features, they are easy to add-on. And
>>>> while I used it I certainly didn't find that *browsing* was slow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It seems fine for me on Gentoo. Of course, I disabled IPV6 on
>>> everything. I have no use for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Funny, I didn't have to do that with Windows. Same firefox and it
>>>>> works great with Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, yeah, sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Liam - I know you aren't going to believe this. I'm sure you'll call me
>>> a liar - but I'm going to say it anyway... Firefox works much, much
>>> better on XP then it does on Linux - at least in my experience.
>>
>> I can't possibly imagine how.
>
> 1. It crashes on Linux, not often but every couple of days it will just
> disappear. I have never once had it crash on XP, and I'm running it on
> at least 5 XP installations. I suppose this could be a result of the
> compiler optimizations I have set... Hmmm, maybe I'll try and emerge it
> again with slightly toned down optimizations (not that I have them set
> wild or anything - but this has been known to help with other packages).
Well, this is true, although it's a bit more rare in my experience than
you make out. Especially the 1.0 version. Still, I'd agree Konqueror is
more stable. Or Ephiphany (which is rather minimal) on GNOME.
>
> 2. It loads faster on XP.
Pre-loading perhaps?
> It also seems to render somewhat faster -
> but that could be my imagination.
Probably.
>
> 3. It doesn't have all the strange input anomolies on XP (like not
> gaining focus on an alt-tab, grabbing on to the mouse sometimes when
> crossing a text field, refusing to give up focus on an alt-tab, etc).
I never really noticed any "imput anomalies" when I used it.
>
> All of the above have gotten much better since I installed the final 1.0
> release, but the still persist.
>
>
>
>>>>> I also noticed that I could not play CD's until I created a /mnt
>>>>> directory in which xmms would mount my audio cds.
>>>>
>>>> Funny how I've never had to do that. Ever. I've never once had to
>>>> *mount* an audio CD to play it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I didn't have to create the mount point either, mostly because I
>>> already had created a /mnt/cdrom for other uses. But, I did have to
>>> tell xmms about it. I'm on Gentoo, so I expect this sort of thing -
>>> but I would immagine that SuSE would set this up in the default
>>> installation?
>>
>> Likely, did on my older version of SuSE before I switched back to
>> Mandrake. And on Mandrake I never had any problem with audio. Just put
>> them in, and they work. DVD works similarly, didn't have to tinker
>> with mountpoints or other garbage, just put them in and they work.
>>
>>
> I did to use xine - but, again, I'm on gentoo so you sometimes have to
> do this stuff. I would expect that commercial or more user oriented
> distro's would be more automated about this. I don't know, because I
> never used one long enough to care. I won't lie, I wasn't impressed by
> my brief stint with SuSE, Mandrake wouldn't install properly, Lycoris
> fsckd my system (thank goodnes for Knoppix), and Red Hat 7.2 and 9.0
> were so pathetically slow that I gave up on them. Gentoo has been the
> only distro I've tried were I've been able to get everything I wanted to
> work (except scanner) to work and wasn't slow compared to XP on the same
> hardware. I know you won't believe that, but that has been my
> experience. I'm not trying to knock linux here, just relating my
> personal experience so far.
I do find it hard for anyone to be not impressed with SuSE, and for
Mandrake to not install properly. Mandrake is about on par with SuSE on
hardware. It's a damn fine distro. I also cannot imagine anyone calling
either *slow* in comparison to Windows XP.
I have never been impressed by the speed of XP when I've seen it in action.
>
>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> I tried Openoffice, which seems to take an eternity to load even on
>>>>> a P4 machine.
>>>>> What a dog!!
>>>>> It seems to work ok once it loads.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly not slow here, but then Open Office is now considered
>>>> tightly integrated into GNOME, and I run GNOME....so it has much more
>>>> pep than if I was running KDE as my DE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hmmm... It doesn't seem to load any faster in Gnome for me - that's
>>> why for general word processing I've switched to Abiword. OO is just
>>> to slow - I still use it to open office documents on Linux though.
>>> Besides, I thought OO2 was going to integrate into both KDE and Gnome
>>> natively.
>>
>>
>> Hmmm, maybe the newer OO is just faster than the old one I was using
>> before...but it certainly seems to work better in GNOME than KDE
>> though. Maybe it's my imagination.
>>
>>
> I don't know what version your using, but I'm on 1.1.4 I believe...
> Don't get me wrong, there was significant improvement from 1.0 to 1.1,
> but it still loads slowly compared to Abiword.
Well, I never claimed that Open Office was faster than Abiword....it *is*
a lightweight app after all, more streamlined, and with fewer features. As
an all inclusive "office suite" application OO is nice, if you *just* need
a word processor then yes, Abiword is superior.
>
>
>>> By the way... Do you really like Gnome?
>>
>> Yeah. I was using SuSE 8.2 (which didn't include GNOME and I wasn't
>> going to go to the hassle, especially given my prior experience) before
>> switching back to Mandrake which I had used before, and my experience
>> on Mandrake had been entirely pre-2.0 GNOME. Coming back to Mandrake
>> (10.1) I gave it a try and....it's nice.
>>
>>
> I guess I'm a little soured on Gnome... It won't stop displaying my KDE
> desktop icons and it does it some ugly icon. When I delete them from
> gnome, it deletes them in KDE. Basically, they don't seem to play nice
> on the same system - well, at least Gnome doesn't seem to play nice with
> KDE.
I have not had this problem on Mandrake. KDE and GNOME desktops are
entirely seperate.
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