Re: Existing DSL not detected by re-install
From: lakester (lakester_at_unknown.invalid)
Date: 03/27/05
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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:08:53 GMT
>From: Kevin Nathan <knat...@project54.com>
>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:21:01
>GMT
>
>lakester <lakes...@unknown.invalid> wrote:
>> >When you get a chance, it's not a bad idea to install the kernel
>> >source, found in package 'kernel-source'...
>
>> How does that help?
>
>Just in case you compile something that needs the kernel source. Often,
>you can get by with the kernel headers, but if you update the kernel you
>may need to re-sync your headers so things like nVidia drivers will be
>compilable.
I have no idea what this is all about. If we use rpm's, what's to
compile? I keep seeing nVidia drivers mentioned, if I don't have an
nVidia video card, why would I be messing with 'em?
That was one of the mysteries of the You update, it kept offering to
update(patch) my nVidia driver, and then failing to install because
the "script" was bad. Is this evidence of a cabal, to get us to use
Gentoo, in spite of ourselves?
>I *did* say it's not a bad idea, but not mandatory . . . :-)
I hear, and I understand. No bad vibes, I'm just trying to soak up
knowledge.
>
>> >I would say you lost connection to the FTP site, for whatever reason.
The guys at the Lab demanded reactor fuel, or at least heavy water,
and I'm running a little short this month, so when I stalled them,
they just booted me off line. And that's the truth!
>> I will have a more complete description of the problem, after my
>> second try, when I get back from work.
>
>Look forward to hearing about it!
Now you're in for it. I downloaded OpenOffice from the Argonne Labs
site, and for reasons I don't understand the download was about 258
MB. The 1st time I did it, it was about 150 MB. I did get a message
that there were a lot of required software changes that needed to be
made because I was selecting OpenOffice (that also didn't happen the
1st time I installed).
Is there a difference in what you get if you select OpenOffice from
the "Select" or "Package" portion of the Yast-> Install New Software?
Anyway, I had the same *problem*, the 2nd time with the download from
the FTP interrupted by the request for the original CD. This time I
was ready, popped in the CD, and it immediately loaded up a couple of
spelling programs, then the install from the FTP re-commenced until
completion. Why are 2 small spelling files (American/British) only
available from the CD? Is this what you mean by not *complete* ( I can
refer to a future quote because I have ESP)?
<<Snip>>
>> Is that the complete path/URL?
>
>Sorry, I should have included that. That's the server (it's IP is
>134.76.11.100, if you need that).
>From my experience in trying to change the installation source, the
numbered addy isn't useful, the system (V9.0) seems to prefer the Path
version.
>The path is:
> /pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.2/
Thanks
>> >Sometimes less complete, but very fast, is the University of Chicago
>> >mirror: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/suse/
<<Snip>>
>or sometimes Argonne Labs (to the hipsters).
>
>Oops. Never made the connection between the 'anl' in the URL to Argonne
>National Lab. I will go stand in the corner for an hour . . .
It's for your own good.
>But, be warned, it's not always *complete* or up-to-date
This is what scares me. How do you check and/or know when any FTP/HTTP
download site is *complete* or up-to-date?
> -- but it *is* damned fast! :-) I think you're generally ok on it if you wait a week
>or two after a change is made on the parent sites.
What are the parent sites? The Novell/SuSE outlets?
<<Snip>>
>> lakester@linux:~> hostname -f
>> linux.local
>
>'local' is not a good idea, anymore. Don't remember all the details, but
>it causes problems in some programs, now. When I heard about that, I
>switched from using '.local' to '.linux' instead. I have _no idea_ if
>this is related in any way . . .
So, what you're saying is, linux.linux is a fully qualified host name?
Where would I be altering that data?
>> >Rebooting is not really needed. If you want to start 'clean', just
>> >get out of KDE and back in.....but it's best to use
>> >either the 'Logout' option..
O.K., thanks. I also got a look at the other window mgr's ( they're
bad, real bad).
>> I wind up at a selection dialog box that allows several window mgrs.,
>> including kde, which I use, or a shutdown.
>
>That's because you initially start in runlevel 5. So, in your case (and
>most people's) Ctrl-Alt-Backspace just restarts the X server instead of
>shutting it down. Years ago, after an X problem caused me heartache, I
>decided to start in runlevel 3 and use 'startx' to go to runlevel 5;
>that way, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace takes me back to runlevel 3. Just a
>personal desire, that's all!
At this early stage of my Linux travelogue, I will maintain all of
SuSE's most automatic features, and I will refrain from changing boot
scripts or config files until such time as I detect any MS-like
malfeasence of purpose or design. Then, watch out!
>> >or open a terminal and do (this is my preferred method):
>> I'll have to try this later, I thought I would be able to do it after
>> logout.
>
>Yes you can. All you have to do is, from the KDM Login Screen, press
>Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to another virtual console (vc) and do your terminal
>commands from there.
The KDM login screen? Is that what you call the location you wind up
at when you logout of KDE?
<<Snip>>
>> Is that going to wind up in China also? It a
>> crazy world, maybe it's not just laptops, maybe the Big Iron is next!
>
>Has been for quite some time:
> http://kurt.www.pinboard.com/techwritings/aj.d30.html
I knew that IBM has been flirting with Linux (particularly
Novell/SuSE), and on a variety of machines (anything that hurts MS
helps IBM). My reference was to the sale of the laptop division to
Lenovo, and the posssibility that IBM would sell off its' "Big Iron"
to the Chinese also. Would they still be in the computer business?
Just another VAR-Service/Support operation?
>--
>Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA)
Thanks again for all the time and effort, lakester
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