Re: Linux Fails The Family Test BADLY!
From: ray (ray_at_zianet.com)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:01:33 -0600
On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:22:10 -0700, Robert Strunk wrote:
> A month after wiping the family computer of Windows XP and installing
> the SUSE 9.3 Professional Linux my good intentions are being
> challenged. What started out as a way for me to cut down on computer
> fiddling has turned into my worst nightmare.
> The family HATES LINUX, and I mean HATES!
> The biggest problems are with my teenagers and the web sites they
> visit, which are laden with plugins and so forth, that simply do not
> work well with Linux.
This is really a problem with idiots who insist on writing non-standard
web pages - it is the responsibility of the web master to make sure his
stuff works with available browsers; but I know that's not a solution to
> Another sore point is kopete and gaim neither of which seem to be able
> to support downloadable buddy icons, can't save messages very well and
> disconnect at all times randomly for now reason. Yahoo chat seems to
> have it's problems as well. The exact same machine and an iMac that I
> also use has no such problems.
I don't use these, so can't comment.
> The USB storage devices that the kids use to sneaker net files and
> stuff to and from school work sometimes, other times don't work at all.
They should work flawlessly - mine do. If not, then there is something
wrong. Do they dismount the drives before they pull them? You have to do
that even with MS.
> The kids absolutely HATE Amarok and want their Rahpsody back again.
I don't know these either.
> My daughter is working on a team project with several schoolmates and
> as a result they are sending files back and forth via email as well as
> with the forementioned USB devices.
> She has had never ending troubles converting the files, editing them
> and then converting them back to Microsoft formats just so the others,
> all of which who are using Windows and OSX, can read them.
There should not be any great difficulty here. If there is, then something
is not set up right.
> Online gaming doesn't work properly with most sites.
> Many internet streaming sites (radio) don't work because they are WMP
> only, or even if they support Realplayer the site doesn't realize that
> I HAVE the Linux realplayer installed.
> It's just a mess and quite frankly I have had all I can take of Linux.
> I can't imagine anyone who would want to waste so much time trying to
> make things fucntion correctly under Linux.
> I've installed SUSE 9.3 three different times with the same results.
> Linux may be ready for the laboratory, or basic surfing and email, but
> I suggest ANYONE interested in converting the family PC to Linux, to
> let their kids, especially teens, loose on the system for a couple of
> days before comitting to it.
> The average teen is going to HATE Linux.
> Believe me, all 4 of mine did and so did their friends when they
> brought their ipod and ipod clones over and in one case Linux erased
> all the files in the dammed thing. It was an iRiver I think and yes it
> was the users fault, but Linux was so confusing they had no idea what
> they were doing.
> Conclusion: Linux is a waste of time.
> Robert Strunk
I have installed Mandrake 10.1 with the available plugins for Mozilla on
the public access internet computers at the local library. After four
months there have been NO complaints. Kids are there from 2:00 in the
afternoon until closing at 8:00 - mainly keeping all the computers in use.
They browse the web and do their stuff without problems. We also have
OpenOffice setup plus AbiWord and Gnumeric (if you're only doing word
processing and spreadsheet stuff I think these are better than OO). All
working without a hitch and with no complaints. The director says that
before (when they used MS) she was called to the floor three or four times
a day to help patrons with internet problems - now "they just run". I
think you probably have a few configuration issues.