Re: acroread 7.0.0 conflict (suse 9.2) online update!

From: Kevin Nathan (knathan_at_project54.com)
Date: 07/31/05 

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:53:35 GMT
lakester <lakester@unknown.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:46:29 -0700, Kevin Nathan
> <knathan@project54.com> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:42:44 GMT
> >lakester <lakester@unknown.invalid> wrote:
> >
> I guess it's something I never thought about, since I use YaST, and
> from within YaST you don't really look at the contents of the
> directory. So, you're saying that a directory of rpm's *is* what YaST
> uses?

SUSE is an RPM-based distro, as is Red Hat, Mandriva and others. Debian
is a DPKG-based distro, etc.

> I thought a rpm was a full binary of the program, which was why
> you could drag it to the desktop and then install it. Clearly I
> haven't fully explored these concepts.
>

No, RPM is a 'package manager' (stands for: Redhat Package Manager,
originally developed by Red Hat). You can package *anything* in it,
binary programs, source code, chapters of a book, whatever.

> I just assumed the path you gave me was correct.

It *was*, if you were just going to download and install one or two
programs.

> I didn't analyse it.

Ah-ha! An under-achiever! ;-)

> I know we've had the discussion about media.1 & suse/content &
> directory.yast before.
>

Those are the files/dirs you *must* find if you want to add an addition
installation source. However, if you are just installing one or two
RPMs then those don't matter -- they are *only* used by YaST for
determing what is available, and where, for the 'Install and Remove
Software' module.

> That is the mesage I got. So let me ask a dumb question, if the path
> you gave me doesn't work, why did you say to use that path? That *is*
> where I got the rpm that I installed.
>

Because, as mentioned above, I was telling you where you could find the
package containing KPDF -- I said nothing about making that dir an
additional installation source; if you would have mentioned that, I
would have pointed you to the _install_ friendly dir. Many sites have
RPMs for SUSE (and other distros) yet are *not* available as an
additional installation source.

I think the point you might be missing is: downloading and installing
an RPM with either 'rpm -Uvh...' or 'yast -i...' or clicking on the
'Install with YaST' button in Konqueror _is not the same as_ using the
Install and Remove Software module of YaST.

> I'm not talking about submerging anything, but about making the
> process as transparent as using a file mgr., where you navigate to a
> location and the system/file mgr indicates/knows the path.

Ok, you're talking about having a 'browse' button? More trouble than
it's worth, in my opinion, because you first have to find the sites
that support a YaST installation source and, once you do, copy and
paste is faster than navigating the web.

Or, if you're talking about SUSE including a list of YaST installation
sources into that module, I doubt *that* will happen -- these things
can change rapidly and they probably don't want the support headaches
due to it . . . :-)

> Is the "K Menu button' the big green main menu button?

Yes. In standard KDE it's a big 'K' but each distro configures it to
use something related to that distro . . .

> I think I tried this process with nautilus, and it wants you to set a
> file association, and I'm still too green to do that in Linux.
>

First of all, I think Nautilus is a waste of time! ;-) But File
Associations are easy to do:

   KDE Control Center -> KDE Components -> File Associations

then type in an extension in the 'Find filename pattern' text box and
look around in there. Easy!

> >> And a big Thankyou.
> >

You're welcome! 

-- 
Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA)  
Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- http://www.project54.com/linux/
Open standards. Open source. Open minds. 
The command line is the front line.
Linux 2.6.8-24.16-default
  4:13pm  up 27 days  1:03,  13 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.11, 0.16
Loading