Re: Starting with Linux
From: rod s (rod_at_surfanytime.co.uk)
Date: 11/18/05
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:10:48 +0000 (GMT)
Hello again,
I will try to answer the questions in as much detail
as I can:
In article, BobS wrote:
> Rod,
> Need to get unconfused here. You have Windows on one hard drive
> (master) and Linux on a second hard drive - is that correct?
Yes,
(When I started experimenting with Linux (couple of years
ago) I added this second drive (40GB). The Windows was
resident on the original hard drive and as far as I
understand it the loading process of Linux puts it
all on the second (slave) drive. I have not had to tell
it any of this in these recent trials, so I must have
told the v7.3 what to do originally and Linux must
detect this somehow when (re-)installing any version.
> 1. What version of Windows are you running (Win98SE, WinXP, WinXP
> w/SP2...)
It is Windows ME (millennium edition) Me 4.90.3000
> 2. Name brand and model of computer (if any).
It is emchines - GeuineIntel - Intel(r)Celeron(tm)processor
127.0MB RAM
Is that enough... I could perhaps find the books which
came with the computer.
> 3. Does Windows run correctly (fast) when you boot to it (yes /
> no)
I have never had any reason to suspect it is running slow.
Some progs take 30s to load eg Firefox but I assume this
is due to bloated program.
> 4. When you had ver 7.3 running, was the DMA set On or Off
> the hard drives?
I don't know.. I suppose if it comes to re-installing v7.3
for test purposes, I could check this and other points.
Systematically.
> 5. When ver 7.3 was running was the DMA for the
> CD drive On or Off?
Same answer as for q4.
> 6. When ver 10 is running, you said YaST shows DMA is "NOT" on
> for "both" the hard drives
After installation, I looked in YaST-hardware-IDE DMA MOde.
There are three lines.
current DMA......device........Required Mode
off hda no change
off hdb no change
ultraDMA/33 CD no change
> 7. What was the other "place" in Linux
> that indicated DMA was "ON" when running ver 10?
elsewhere on the same screen you can change the DMA.
You are offered in a submenu:
DMA Off
DMA On (default) <-----it says!!
DMA/16
UltraDMA/16
UltraDMA/33
I have never altered the CD setting
I have tried DMA On
I have tried UltraDMA/16
I don't think I tried any of the others.
> 8. Was that for the hard drives or CD?
see q7
> Even though the hard drives support DMA, and it sounds like your
> hardware is new enough (BIOS) that it should also support DMA,
> it appears you are having a conflict. YaST should be turning
> DMA to ON for the hard drives and OFF for the CD/s. Double
> check that.
see qq6-7
> If YaST is turning DMA to OFF for the hard drives
> then maybe ver 10 is not identifying the motherboard correctly
> or the drives.
OK
> The one thing that is troublesome is that you said you turned DMA
> to ON and that buggered the boot record - which is a typical
> symptom under Windows when the hardware really doesn't support
> DMA even though the software shows selections to turn it on.
I suppose that's it... the boot process hung (if memory is right)
> I've had to reload Windows on more than one occasion trying to
> see if the hardware really supports DMA.
> It would be nice if you could get at the hardware to unplug the
> windows drive so we can do some elimination here but you
> indicated that's not possible. Anyone else around that could do
> that for you?
The problem is space - it would be a major undertaking to get
at the computer - and (I hope this doesn't sound as if I
am ungrateful for all your patient help) I'm not sure it
is worth the effort.
> At any rate, try answering the questions above and then when you
> reload ver 10, do it by the numbers, one step at a time, assume
> nothing, write down any errors it gets or anything you don't
> understand so we can try to sort it out.
Well, when I loaded it yesterday, it didn't seem to
report any errors - the whole process went smoothly.
But I agree it is only sensible to do this systematically
so that one does not rely on memory.
> If I get the chance in the am, I'll be loading ver 10 up on one
> of my test boxes here (old hardware also) and I'll let you know
> how it runs - or I'll be asking you for advice....;-)
LOL
> Don't give up on it yet. We just need to get it back to ground
> zero and go from the known to the unknown - one step at a time.
> So keep a pencil and paper handy to jot down anything that looks
> flaky. It just may be the clue needed.
The word 'just' is rather encouraging. I am not planning to
do anything till I hear from you - with a plan of campaign
and then anything I do will be taken down in writing and may
be used in evidence.
Though all this installing and re-installing is very
time-consuming, there is one bright side. The computer
I use for messages such as this is a different one, so that
I am not reliant upon the 'test' machine for immediate
communication. This machine is not a Windows one - it
is a RISC-PC if that means anything to you. But if it helps
in all of this I do have another older Windows machine
which is running Windows 98 but only has the one hard
disk.
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