Re: How to spoof MAC-address in SuSE Linux?

houghi wrote:
Vahis wrote:
I think it would be worthwhile to check that "legal"point.
The Finnish ISP:s were telling that it was illegal and they prohibited that in their contracts and they threatened the customers and stuff. 

OK. I must say the Belgian ISP have not realy done anything serious
about it. At least I have not heard that people were banned because they
ran more then one PC on the network while it was not allowed to do so.
So it has never been trialed.
I asume you are still talking about the several machines here.

I am

This means that they give you, say 5 addresses from their DHCP and you can run servers within your band with limitations that you pay for. 

Here they give 1 IP adress and that is it. At least with ADSL. With
Cabel if you want more then one computer connected (the `legal` way) you
will get a seperate IP for each PC and if you want to go from one PC to
the other I _think_ you need to go over the internet.

The ADSL boxes they supply (if you want them) with the deal you make are by default set to routing mode DHCP and NAT today. 

No boxes where I got. Some provide them and as you do not get a fixed
IP, DHCP is the real only solution. Also IP adresses are changed every
36 hours.

The normal address here is dynamic, but they do not change it. If you reboot the ADSL you normally get the same address again, but after a longer time of course it probably is different. If you have everything 27/7 like myself the address keeps as long as they for eaxample need to do some maintenance. So your address can change anytime, that's the deal.

Fixed IP costs mucho dineros. I don't know why.

The ISP is then helpless with all the support calls and all the blocking from other countries. 

The ISP here can (not shure how strict they are) kick him and disallow
anny connection. his is regardless of the type of user. It can be a
individual or an huge company with a large leased line. Open relay
should mean kick and ban till proven innocent.

Here they would close you down and find out if it was on purpose or maybe you were criminally cracked. If cracked it's probably a police matter, they will procecute. If on purpose you will be banned. 
Also some providers have port 25 closed so you are FORCED to use their
mailserver.

Mailservers are not allowed just like that, they need to be authorized and fullfill a lot of requirements. No can do home.

If you want to use another mailserver, you can use SMTPS
(isn't that port 429 or something?)

I'm not sure, what's 366?

If you run several machines behind a router they would not care, I'm sure, it really is better for them. 

Here there are several providers that close all ports till 1024 and some
above that as well, like the IRC ports. So you can run servers, but not
on the standard ports.
If you are a company and want or need a fixed IP for your mailserver,
the cheapest subsciption allows you 5 open ports and the router is owned
by the phonecompany, so you can not change it yourself.

What they are afraid of is that the neighbors start sharing costs and bandwith using WiFi ADSL modems. It's already going on here. This way they lose customers. But still, there's no law against that as long as you do not disturb others. 

I have not yet heard about a trial case here in Belgium. You can imagine
because there is a limit on the amount of GB and some providers are
really strict about that, you would not want your neighbour to use up
your 10GB the first day and then let you on smallband for the rest of
the month.

We got no quota bandwith is not limited to any amount of data here, it's just the different speeds you pay for. 

Now what really happens if you have not one PC but a network and you
phone with a problem. The moment they notice you have a network, the
support you think you are going to get is gone. "Sorry sir, the support
we give is not for networked computers only. If you want a networked
computer and support, please take another subscribtion. I can forward
you to one of our sales people to steal your money. Otherwise call back
and either lie to us, or just connect the PC without any network,
directly to the modem and you will notice that the problem is gone.
Prooving that the network, wich we disallow, was the problem to begin
with."

This to prevent calls lik: "Hello I just baught a new router that
connects my 7 PCs and now YOU broke the internet. Repair it. I know what
I am doing. I work at a PC store and sell PCs every day." or "What is
wrong with your speed. I can hardly get any websites. (Forgetting to
mention that 3 PCs are running Azureus at ful up and down speed and 3
others leeching websites) It is slow and that is YOUR fault."

I've had discussions with them saying that I'm running an Apache server and that I'm also running Azureus on another one. It's OK with them.

The closing of port 25 is also, in general, a good thing.

It is. I have mine closed, but not by the ISP, it's my firewall. If I open it they can seeme:
http://www.canyouseeme.org/

So in many cases. like the prices of the cars (taxes on the prices), we are so unequal inside the Big Happy European Family.

--
Vahis
The ONLY thing that seems to band all nations together, is that their governments are universally bad....
Frank Zappa, American composer fl. 1940-1993

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