Re: Easiest E-Mail server to setup and use?

The carbonbased lifeform MarkH inspired alt.os.linux.suse with:
> Renegade <not.v@xxxxxxx> wrote in
> news:qOIqf.214$bd.67@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:47:58 +0000, MarkH wrote:
>>
>>> I have found that the lack of easy to install and setup apps for
>>> certain things to be a bit annoying. If this stuff can be done in
>>> windows then how hard could it be to setup a nice GUI to control the
>>> required Linux apps? Changing some settings in a config file can't
>>> be too hard from a GUI program surely? Many things would only need a
>>> tick box or selection from a drop down menu, which could easily
>>> result in the right command written to the relevant .conf file.
>>
The fact that there are oh so many "easy to maintain and setup" Windows
mailservers out there spewing garbage day in and day out is more than
enough to convince me that TINSTAAFL, or in other words: things that can
be made to work /by/ a moron, probably /have/ a moron working with it.

>> Not meaning to play the distro switch game here, but I just setup a
>> machine like what you described... fetchmail to get the mail from the
>> ISP and spamassassin to weed out the spam. The scanned email is held
>> by qpopper until the other machines get the mail from there. That
>> particular configuration is very simple with Debian Sarge. Exim is the
>> default MTA, and qpopper is the popserver. Then you add fetchmail and
>> whatever other goodies that you may want.
>
> This still seems like a lot of mucking about! Why isn't there a nice
> wee GUI app that uses fetchmail to get the mail, spamassassin to weed
> out the spam, Exim for the MTA and gpopper to provide the mail to the
> other machines. Something tidy and simple with some drop down menus and
> some tick boxes and some data fields to enter username/password info.
> Surely this would be an easy app to create for an experienced
> programmer?

Undubiously my dear mr MarkH, but the fact that such an app isn't
available (or at least not for 'free') should tell you something.
I tell you what it should tell you: administering a mailserver isn't
"follow the colored pictures in the setup-guide (aka comic-book), select
some boxes, click OK a couple of times and you're a superduper
mail-admin in 5 minutes"

Maybe this a strange thing for the average Windows admin, but your work
actually gets easier when you *understand* the things you're trying to
do. And when you understand how and what SMTP and POP and MTAs and MDAs
and MUAs do, it suddenly all starts to make sense, and you'll find that
config tools with a GUI most of the time are more a PITA than a help.

But if you must, there are some tools (for Postfix) available:
http://www.postfix.org/addon.html

Also have a look at the Webmin modules available. Postfix, fetchmail and
also afaik SA and ClamAV can be controlled from this software.

Theo
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