Re: Where is ifconfig in SuSe 10.1?

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, houghi <houghi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:-

David Bolt wrote:

In a way, I can understand. It's a way of figuring out if those that ask
the questions are actually serious about learning or not. Those that
want to learn are likely to find the answer that way, and if they still
have some questions or don't understand something, can explain just what
they have a problem with.

Yes, just not as it is the ONLY answer to each questions. As if saying:
"Don't ask any questions. If you need to ask, you shouldn't do any
packaging."

The only problem with that sort of attitude is that it may stop some of those that have shown an interest from pursuing it. Personally, my attitude is more on the lines of:

Here's an example to look at. Now RTFM and see if you can understand my example. If you still have questions, after all that, then ask again and I'll try and answer.

The st00pid thing is that when you look around openSUSE.org, you can
find examples on how to pacvkage GNOME or KDE package¹s, but when you
just want to package a script, the answer was: sorry, it is not possible
to make an example, because ther are so many thing to consider, please
first learn about RPM.

Which is completely wrong. Packaging a script is about the easiest thing
you can do.

Actually, thinking about it, it can be the easiest thing to do. I can also be a little more complex, all depending on just what the script uses. If it's using things that are included in a default install, or just commands built into e.g. bash, there's not much to do.

If it's doing more complex things, and relies on other packages, then those would have to be manually added to the Requires: otherwise rpm will happily install a package where it doesn't know the script relies on other, not yet installed, packages.

I would have thought so as well, but just look at the openSUSE page or
see the questions that e.g. jdd asked in the packaging mailinglist.

Yes, I noticed. I provided a sample spec file, which I hope helped, and pointed him to the packaging list as a better place to ask than the factory list. I also pointed out that another tool he could use, which could do some of what he asked for, was checkinstall.

A while ago I just realy asked if somebody could put a sample for
standard and the answer was no.

I do remember that discussion.

So: thank you Pascal Blesser for me not being interested anymore in
packaging.

Fortunately, I've not had anyone try and persuade me not to do any packaging. And even if someone had tried, it wouldn't work. The primary reason for me packaging things is that I package what I want, need, or would like. That I let others benefit from my packaging efforts is just my way of giving back a little of what I've been given.


Regards,
David Bolt

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