Re: Just Installed SuSE Linux 10.1

"Darrell Stec" <darrell_stec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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After serious contemplation, on or about Sunday 27 August 2006 1:17 pm
choro-nik perhaps from choro-nik@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

"ac" <"aec$news"@candt.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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choro-nik wrote:
Just installed SeSE Linux 10.1 (32 bit version) on my spare computer
which I had built some months ago and which was sitting under the
desk gathering dust.

Welcome! and congratulations.

Incidentally, I know SuSE can be installed on an existing computer
on the same Hard Disk but that is another matter.

First impressions very good. I love that sea-blue or is it sky-blue
default desktop and the default screen saver. Far far superior to
anything on Windows XP.

My Linux computer is connected to the same keyboard, mouse and
monitor via a KVM box so the whole setup can be operated using my
existing keyboard, mouse and monitor. Very practical. I would
recommend this to all those who have a second computer gathering
dust in some corner. Though mine is a 4-way KVM box, 2-way ones can
be had for under 20 including all the necessary cabling built in
to hook up the two computers.

However, am having trouble with connecting to my ISP to send and
receive emails.

I am not clear about this - does this mean you can in fact browse the
web ok, but cannot send receive emails?

Will have another go at it when I get the time. Incidentally while
my Win XP computer is connected to my cable setup via a network
cable, I
have used a USB cable to connect the same cable modem to my 2nd
Linux computer.

A USB connection for internet is bad news, it is very much more
straightforward to use a network cable (UTP, RJ45 connector etc).
If you can use another cable from your cable modem it is worth
trying, otherwise, consider a four way switch between your cable
modem and your PCs, they are fairly cheap now, even a used one will
be ok. --
ac

Gave up on SeSE after reinstalling from scratch again and trying to
establish Internet connection a second time. Ordered a second copy of
Windows XP and set it up on my second computer BUT I left an
unformatted 80 GB partition as I wanted to retry installing SuSE on
the same computer. Or
would it be preferable to install SUSE on a 2nd Hard Disk? After all
Hard Disks are not exactly expensive these days.

Anyway, I think in the process I might have discovered WHY I could not
establish connection with SUSE LINUX.

In a nutshell, I could neither establish connection on my Second
machine on which I had installed Windows XP. So after nearly giving up
I disconnected the Telewest Blueyonder cable modem (a Motorola SB5100)
from the mains and plugged it into the mains again. It seems that the
trick is to disconnect the Cable Modem for AT LEAST 10 seconds and
reconnect again, and WAIT for at least another 10 seconds while the
Modem establishes communications with the PC. Of course it goes
without saying that when you disconnect the Cable Modem from the
Mains, you hook up the modem to the 2nd PC with the Ethernet cable
(not a Xover type).

And off you go. It works like a dream. It goes without saying that
one has to do all the work in setting up one's e-mail account etc
beforehand if one wants to send and receive e-mails but that is
another issue. The main issue here is CONNECTIVITY.

It seems to my non-too-technical mind that my Motorola SB5100 Cable
Modem is
not clever enough to sense the change in the Local Area Network when
the Ethernet cable from PC #1 is disconnected and the cable from PC #2
is connected to the Modem which to be quite frank surprised me in
these days of
Plug and Play etc etc. Hence the need to UNPLUG the modem for at
least 10 seconds, connect the Ethernet cable from PC #2 to the modem
in the meanwhile
(these 2 processes not necessarily in that order) and then REPLUG
the
Modem into the mains and then wait for at least another 10 seconds
while
connectivity is established. And Bob's your uncle.

I am surprised that nobody was able to mention this very basic point
to me which I had to find the hard way.

Having thus succeeded with managing 2 PCs with 1 Cable Modem, I next
intend
to try setting up either a wired or a wireless Ethernet HUB which
hopefully will eliminate this problem of having to UNPLUG the modem
and disconnecting one Ethernet cable and connect the other one to the
Modem each time I switch over between my 2 PCs.

However, I believe that I have to be careful in which HUB I go for as
some might not be SUSE Linux compatible. Obviously I will need one
that will be both Windows XP and SUSE Linux compatible. Anybody with
any advice in this respect out there?


Why not use a router? They are cheap, and your software doesn't even
care what you use. Most routers sold today are the wireless variety
and can handle wired ethernet cards too and on a decent sale can be had
for $49.00. And no more plugging and unplugging. Some routers also
come ready made for Vontage too.

That's what I intended to do but it is not much good unless one can
establish Internet connectivity in the first place. I just installed Win XP
on my second machine and got it going only yesterday, man. Anyway, I am
after re-installing SUSE LINUX on the unformatted partition of the hard
disk OR buying a 2nd hard disk for SuSE Linux to go on. It definitely looks
like I will be ending up with my 2nd machine being a dual boot machine. I
could have bought a second hard disk for it on Saturday I guess but I was
fast asleep during the day on Saturday having received my Wim XP CD on
Friday
evening and having worked far into the night (or should I say morning)
installing Win XP on the first partition. Anyway Win XP is up and running
and with ALL the updates installed and IE and OE operational.

As for the Cable Modem Router, let me install SuSE first. One thing at a
time, man! If I go mad I'll throw everything in the dustbin and go out and
buy a $2,000 Apple Intel Duo Core laptop. No more miles and miles of cables
lying behind the monitor and the machines to say nothing of the already
installed and up and running KVM system and the big hi-fi speakers I have
got ready for hooking up to the system. My table (yes I use a large dining
table!) at home looks like a model of the Himalayas!

Maybe I should go out and settle on a hooker. That would be a lot simpler
now, wouldn't it?

BTW, the reason why I wrote the previous posting was to let people know that
you just can't unplug a cable from a cable modem and hook it up to the next
computer. You have to switch it off at the mains wait for at least 10
seconds while hooking it up to the next computer and wait for at least
another 10 seconds before they will *** up with one another. Otherwise the
' affairé ' leads nowhere. If you can't get the computer and the cable modem
on talking terms they certainly won't screw together!!! I mean this was the
message I wanted to give to others.

So say I go out tomorrow and get a cable modem/router. But what is the use
if I can't get Internet connectivity in the first place?

--
choro-nik
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