Re: 10.1 updates
- From: imotgm <imotgmREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:56:12 -0600
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:35:26 +0100, Martin Schnitkemper wrote:
· imotgm <imotgmREM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schrieb:
the lot. Just because Martin had problems, does not mean that everyone
has, or feels as he does. I certainly don't.
Lucky you! But I was not the only one who had these problems, roll back the
newsgroups articles and you will see that many others had these problems,
the newsgroups and also bugzilla was full of them.
Don't have to, my memory works fine. There were problems, and a solution
was posted shorty thereafter; run YOU immediately after the installation.
Every one had the initial problem, not just many. Those that followed the
instructions got on with life. Those that did not, kept bitching about it.
A remastered image was posted that fixed the problem, and added all the
updates issued up to the date of the remastered image, to eliminate the
excuse to bitch, for those too dense to follow the simple instructions.
And why still fight with a suse-10.1 if a better version is already out?
If it is already installed then it is ok, but I would never suggest to
install suse-10.1 on a new systen when an improved and bugfixed version
is already available.
As stated, I do not fight SUSE 10.1, I use it. There is nothing to fight,
as it runs in a totally stable and reliable manner. I find it to be one of
the best releases, possibly the best, since I started using SUSE. I see no
reason to not recommend it.
There are instructions on the openSUSE.org to work around, and correct
the problems that occurred with the original release of 10.1, if you
choose to install from your present disk.
Why you want to have this trouble? Of course they are workarounds, and
the most of us were finally able to work with it, but why still that
challenge?
Finally able? The fix takes a few minutes; far less time than a full
download of a DVD image. It is a viable option, not a challenge.
Otherwise the 10.1 remastered ISO images contain the fixes already, as
well as all the updates up until its release, so is probably a better
choice, if you have a broadband connection.
Why to download an remastered ISO of suse-10.1 and not the new openSUSE
10.2?
I have both. SUSE 10.2 is not without its own problems, as is every
release. They will be fixed as time goes by, like always, and 10.2 may
eventually be superior to 10.1. At this time I find 10.1 to be more
reliable; most of its bugs have already been shaken out. 10.2 is just
starting its shake out process.
And ZENworks didn't neither work correctly in suse-10.1 nor in openSUSE
10.2, it has no significant improvements, I tested it ever and ever
again, it is still slow and unstable. Most of us used "smart" for the
important updates since it was not possible to serious work with YaST
and ZENworks.
See that's your problem. Because *you* can't, for whatever reason, work
with the tools provided, you blame the tools, and condemn them as useless.
I have no problems with the tools provided, they work just fine. I do not
have "smart" installed, as I see it as an unnecessary option. If it works
for you, that's good, but to say *most of us used "smart"*, is probably an
overstatement. You have no way of knowing what percentage of SUSE users
use any of its many choices of apps, and neither do I.
I do know what works for me, on my machines. I have no way of knowing why
it does not work for you. Could be, you have hardware problems, that you
are not aware of, or something mis-configured that causes the software to
malfunction. The fact that it works for me, without issue, would suggest
it is not a major flaw in the software itself.
Why do you think did Novell introduce the new "openUpdater" in openSUSE
10.2 if ZENworks would work correct?
I have no idea what Novell thinks, or their reasons for offering any
particular piece of software. Maybe it's to give the users "choice"?
In openSUSE 10.2 you can fortunately decide between two update methods
and you can fortunately leave ZENworks behind you, that is one of the
greatest benefits (along with others) that openSUSE 10.2 brings to you.
Not to mention an updated kernel or kde.
I've relied on YaST, and YOU for years, and see no actual *need* for
ZENworks, but as long as it's working I'll leave it be. It is totally
possible to remove it in both 10.1, and 10.2, if that is your choice. YOU
can handle all of the critical updates on its own, as it always has in the
past.
--
imotgm
"Lost? Lost? I've never been lost... Been a tad confused for a
month or two, but never lost."
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