Re: friggin Wireless - Somebody's got to do something
- From: Barnacle Bill the Sailor <mungedandmangled@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:46:58 -0400
John Bowling wrote:
Barnacle Bill the Sailor wrote:
TheDoc wrote:
"Barnacle Bill the Sailor" <mungedandmangled@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote inYeah I know. But if the companies aren't parting with the protocols, so
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The Computer Dood wrote:Well, it's not Linux that's the problem... it's the wireless card
I have SUSE 10 installed on a Dell Laptop, and have tried several timesWhen it comes to Linux and wireless, the day is going to come when it
to get tow different WIFI cards (Speedstream, and Airlink brand)
working. The card is detected, but cannot get an IP address on an optn
WIFI router. I have been on numerous web sites. I have installed a
NDISWRAPPER driver from the windoze disk, and each time I see the card.
I try and configure it, but it says it wants an IPV6 connection.
Yesterday, while trying every conceivable solution, I added PCI
Wireless
Direct as an option. It was one of the built in drivers, under YAST.
The Wireless Card activity light came on, and at one point I saw an
address from my wireless router. But I could not route, and after a
reset, I lost the address.
I am curious why this is so difficult. Sure I am a rookie at Linux,
but
it seems there should be better WIFI support. IFUP and IFDOWN on WLAN0
does not make a difference. Like I said, two different cards, same
results.
Looking for a definitive help on this. You know, Step by Step. All
the
other features os SUSE seem great. It seems very profesionally
written,
and the menues are sharp, and installation was easy. But really want
Wireless. May have to abondon SUSE if I cannot get it to work.
Looking for some GURU's to "plow the field" to help the rest of us get
things working.
Thank you,
Eric H.
works right out of the box and we will wonder why we put up with this
for so long. Does anybody that knows how to write drivers give a hoot
that wireless is so hit and miss with linux? NDISwrapper my arse! What a
kludge. Put something in the dad blamed kernel for pete's sake! Sorry
Eric that I am no help here, but I had to rant.
manufacturers fault..
very very few will release interface/registers/commands etc.. they keep
it proprietory..
they only seem to support windoze.. that's where the sales are ( to date
anyway )..
as we all know, there are some VERY talented Linux software engineers out
"there" and I for one
am very grateful for their talents.. please don't flame Linux.. attack
the card manufacturers..
if the situation were reversed, I'm sure you would be saying "god windows
sux dude.. no Wifi drivers"..
reverse engineer the darn things! And dare them to make something of it!
So you end up with the same crap that we have around mp3 and DVD - can't use
working OSS to do it because it *appears* to infringe on the intellectual
property of some proprietary *crappy* company.
Just because it's reverse engineered doesn't mean you have the right to use
it. After all, it has to use that crappy proprietary company's copywritten
(or patented) data flow process. If not, it won't work.
And some companies are doing it right! I bought a USB to WiFi adaptor that
included Linux code on CD. It needs to be compiled into the kernel, which I
haven't tried yet. AND, I got the device on eBay for about $25 including
shipping from China.
So why buy the $80 versions from some US crap company? Give those crap
companies what they deserve - NOTHING!!!!! And if you bought it - demand a
full refund as defective - which it IS!
Yes you are right, but I have to rant! And my wireless gadget came built
in to my laptop....I was clueless then about whether Linux could use it.
I got a dongle with D-link chip that does work (And without NDISwrapper)
so I am not out in the cold. But as for Broadcom and anybody else that
won't play ball.......
.
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