Re: Repository 'openSUSE-10.3-Updates' is invalid

houghi wrote:
Kevin Miller wrote:
houghi wrote:

I did not say it is fast. I say _I_ do not see any problems with the
speed. You can turn off the updating for each repo if you so desire.
Sure, but then how do you get notified of updates.

By email once they are done.

Got a link?

Some repos are
turned off on my system, such as the Nvidia one. Can't turn them all
off though and still run a reasonably patched system. Or am I missing
something?

Perhaps the fact that you do not do the updates automagicaly.

Guess you could say I'm running semi-automatically. The updater in the
kicker lets me know when there are updates but I install them manually.
But even if I did automatic updates, the system would have to query the
repos to realize there were updates to be had. If the repos are turned
off, automatic update would never kick in. Or do I misunderstand you?


I don't know whether it's a problem or not. But it is an annoyance and
I know it could be better.

Then by all means give the solution to the developers and/or give us the
bugnumber that you opend and where you are working with the developers
on a solution.

That's a tired old canard. It implies that anybody using open source is
qualified, interested, or has the time/inclination to be a hacker. I
mentioned two approaches: apt, which is a proven technology, and
something based on a DNS type approach. I don't know if anybody is
exploring the latter but it does wonders with RBLs, SPF, etc. Not to
mention, um, DNS. <g>



This 'good enough for the girls we go with' attitude puts us not far
from the Microsoft camp IMHO. Open source is wide open for innovation
but too often we settle for much less...

What 'we' settle for is what 'we' want. You say you know it could be
better. That means you have the solution. Why do you not share that
solution with the development team.

I've never met anyone one the development team. Nor do I have the
development background to seriously contribute to it. I presume that
the development teams participates in the 'greater SUSE community' to
some degree, i.e., they keep their ears to the ground to get a sense of
how things are working out. But maybe they don't. Maybe they have
their own little list server or forums and don't care what the
experience is like for us mere mortals. That would explain a lot.

I've always liked SUSE. For the most part it's what I want. There are
enough things goofy in 10.3 however that make me inclined to try other
distros. Maybe they do it better. So far I'm not wild about Debian
(except for apt - it works a treat). But maybe Ubuntu will work, I
dunno. They seem to be listening to consumer feedback at any rate,
judging from their widespread adoption. Or maybe I'll try them and
decide they're not for me. The long and short of it is that we settle
for what works best for us, but doing so doesn't mean we abdicate the
right point out the flaws.


Open source is wide open for innovation, but too often we settle to wait
and let others do it for us. Or people just start asuming things,
instead of knowing.

Yup. We wait for things to get fixed by people that know how to fix
them. When my pipes burst I wait for the plumber. When my car breaks I
wait for the mechanic to fix it. Why should my computer be any different?

One would think from your defensiveness that you were responsible for
the update system.

....Kevin
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Kevin Miller
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
Juneau, Alaska
Registered Linux User No: 307357
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