Re: Repository 'openSUSE-10.3-Updates' is invalid

Kevin Miller wrote:
houghi wrote:
That I would not call 'automatic'. I would not even call that
semi-automatic. As far as I can tell, you decide on each package.

Sure, but I don't have to search for them. The system lets me know when
there's a new package. If they're small I can kick them off and not be
impacted. If it's something like a kernel update I can put it off and
not burn up my bandwidth.

I do not update my kernel automagicaly. I do not update anything that
needs my attention. I will read it when I get the mail that it wasn't
updated and then, once a month, do it.

Updates do pretty much run in the background. But they consume
bandwidth. The load on my system may be minimal, even at the same time
the load on my connection is maxed out.

Isn't that a bit stating the obvious?

It's also nice to be able to hold off on an update too. You may or may
not remember a couple months ago, but the java update was completely
borked.

No, I do not remember. I do daily updates and I did not notice anything.

Unfortunately I installed it before anybody complained.
/etc/alternatives was full of broken sym links, and it took me several
hours to manually fix them. I wish I'd read here that the java update
was broken - it would have saved me a lot of trouble.

Which it would never have been send out.

Although I still got bit, at least with manual update selection one has
the chance of preventing such problems.

Then you would have known that the update was borked? I doubt that. I
think you would just have clicked OK and had the identical problem.

You've been here long enough to know it's not the first bad update
either. I'm sure every distribution has them now and again - I'm not
picking on SUSE developers and packagers here.

I have heard about other bad updates. I have never experienced any of
them as far as I can recall.

Not at a technical level. At a very superficial level I think it is due
ot the merging of the red carpet mechanism with the historical mechanism
in YaST/YOU.

I think it is because the moon is in the Seventh House and Jupiyer
aligns with Mars.

You hit the nail on the head. I want it to 'just work'. I don't think
that's unreasonable.

No, it isn't.

OTOH if they hear nothing and get no feedback, they know that they are
on the right track and will continue that way.

Yeah, kind of a catch-22 isn't it.

Nope. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic) You give feedback
end of story.

Sure - we all have different needs and expectations. I'm all for new
features and programs as well. Otherwise we'd all still be on 8.

Hey, that was faster.

Great idea. So what did the developers make of this idea?

Beats me.

So the time you take to eleborate here is better then taking that same
amount of time and give feedback to the developers? Wow.

As Rajko mentioned on messages further down the thread, they're aware of
it and working on it. You might not have a problem with it. That's not
a reason that those of us here that do shouldn't mention it.

It is also no reason to give feedback to the developers.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353816

Seee how they listen and work when you give feedback?

Perhaps not. It is sufficiently enough of a hassle that it isn't
readily convenient and that is off-putting to the average user.

I am the average user as well.

I went to the trouble because I want to see timidity fixed.

So you do not want the speed problem you experiecne to be fixed?

If the developers
really want feedback from the great unwashed masses it has to be simple
and convenient. Sort of like what Dell did with their ideastorm. They
got lots of feedback really fast.

Tell them. (Now THAT is a Catch 22)

What do you loose by reporting the bug?

Fair enough. Since I've already gone through the trouble of signing up
it isn't that much of a stretch to open another case.

W00T!. :-D

houghi
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If God doesn't destroy Hollywood Boulevard, he owes Sodom and
Gomorrah an apology.
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