Re: Repository 'openSUSE-10.3-Updates' is invalid

houghi wrote:


I do not update my kernel automagicaly. I do not update anything that
needs my attention. I will read it when I get the mail that it wasn't
updated and then, once a month, do it.

Guess I'm still not clear on exactly what mechanism you're using here.
Is this a script that you wrote or configuration options w/in the
auto-update YaST module?


Updates do pretty much run in the background. But they consume
bandwidth. The load on my system may be minimal, even at the same time
the load on my connection is maxed out.

Isn't that a bit stating the obvious?

Well sure. But folks w/bandwidth to burn don't care so if a big patch
is coming done the wire they don't notice much of an inmpact. I, on the
other hand, have a bottom end DSL connection shared w/my family. An OOo
update combined with youtube just about kills any kind of response rate.
On the other hand, it does give one time to go to the kitchen and get a
beer. ;-)


It's also nice to be able to hold off on an update too. You may or may
not remember a couple months ago, but the java update was completely
borked.

No, I do not remember. I do daily updates and I did not notice anything.

Lucky you. It's in bugzilla if you're mildly interested.


Unfortunately I installed it before anybody complained.
/etc/alternatives was full of broken sym links, and it took me several
hours to manually fix them. I wish I'd read here that the java update
was broken - it would have saved me a lot of trouble.

Which it would never have been send out.

Maybe not sent out, but I think it was commented on here. If not, then
in the opensuse nntp groups - I know I read of others being bitten.


Although I still got bit, at least with manual update selection one has
the chance of preventing such problems.

Then you would have known that the update was borked? I doubt that. I
think you would just have clicked OK and had the identical problem.

Sometimes you beat the reaper, sometimes you don't.


So the time you take to eleborate here is better then taking that same
amount of time and give feedback to the developers? Wow.

LOL. When one jumps into one of these threads, rarely does one expect
it to turn into something rivaling Dostoevsky. Sigh. :-)


As Rajko mentioned on messages further down the thread, they're aware of
it and working on it. You might not have a problem with it. That's not
a reason that those of us here that do shouldn't mention it.

It is also no reason to give feedback to the developers.

I dunno - it's a fine line between useful input and background noise, me
thinks.


https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353816

Seee how they listen and work when you give feedback?

Sure. Still not fixed yet, but there's a guy looking into it.


Perhaps not. It is sufficiently enough of a hassle that it isn't
readily convenient and that is off-putting to the average user.

I am the average user as well.

I went to the trouble because I want to see timidity fixed.

So you do not want the speed problem you experiecne to be fixed?

Of course, but you and I both know (and have known all along that it's
an issue that they're aware of. But let me ask you this in all
seriousness - how does one report that. The Timidity problem was easy -
specific program and symptoms I could demonstrate. But what sort of bug
report does one open for updating. I mean, one can't just get on and
say 'um guys, updating sucks. It's way slower than apt or even 10.0.
Fix it.'

What kind of feedback is actually helpful to them in that situation from
a guy that's willing to invest 5 or 10 minutes here or there but doesn't
want to make it his life's crusade? I'm looking for specific
constructive guidance here, not just demagoguery and pontificating.


What do you loose by reporting the bug?
Fair enough. Since I've already gone through the trouble of signing up
it isn't that much of a stretch to open another case.

W00T!. :-D

Sadly, they closed the ticket with a WONTFIX. Not surprised. They
noted that I got the download from packman and blamed it on audacity.
So back to square one. Maybe my install is just borked. I dunno. Or
maybe it's something I installed somewhere along the line. Or maybe
it's my hardware or??? Hard to say. As it stands I can't use it and
don't have any method/guidence for fixing it. Bummer...


....Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
Juneau, Alaska
Registered Linux User No: 307357
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