Re: Internet Explorer emulator?

Darrell Stec wrote:
What would any of those Windows groups know about Linux virtual
machines?

That is irrelevant. A virtual machine is basicaly the same as any other
machine. Wether this is a virtual machine or a machine he build himself
is irrelevant.

No. I got Windows (Vista, I think) with my latetst portable and 3.1 with
my 386. I bought Win95 (first edition) and except these two systems,
none of them included any Windows.

But did it come preinstalled on your system with a recovery system that
totally wipes out C drive and all data? Many if not most retail stores
sell their computers that way now days.

The first one I do not remember wether it was pre-installed or not. The
last one did. No idea how a recovery works as I never ran Windows on it
and trew away the CD that came with it.

So probably many systems are sold that way. That still is a Windows
problem, not a Linux problem.

And how does this file address Windows?

Please start to understand what a virtual manager is first, because you
are making yourself risiculous.

Don't you have to install Windows
AFTER you set up the virtual machine?

Set up the virtal machine? You run the program which then becomes a PC
on your PC.

If it runs Windows then it "talks"
to Windows or interacts with Windows.

No, it doesn't. It _IS_ Windows. What you are saying is just as silly as
saying that your pre-installed windows machine talks to windows.

Or does it run the original Windows
(drive C) that is already set up on your dual booting drive?

Dual booting has NOTHING to do with virtual machines.

I have a strong feeling than neither you nor Vahis has used a computer like
Acer, HP or Compaq where the operating system, WinXP or Vista, is on a
separate partition sometimes hidden on some models.

Yes I have. I even have visited some place where they are build and have
a better understanding of the 'hidden' partition used by those and other
companies, including some secret codes used and mch more.

If Windows screws up,
there is no repair facility. There is a BIOS option to run the recovery
proceedure with will delete everything on C drive, reformat it, and
reinstall your operating system and all divers and applications that came
with your computer.

I know and that is all completely irrelevant to what we are talking
about.

You don't get to pick and choose, and you don't get to
expand any files as you could on normal Windows OS CD.

Well, if you do some tricks before the first boot where in Belgium you
select e.g. the language, there is a lot more you could do to something
to install more then just what the company wants you to install.

Also it is prossible to burn your own recovery CD or DVD and if you did
not do that, there are processes in place that will let the company send
you them. However there are strict rules that need to be applied because
of licencing issues with MS. e.g. if you select the wrong language in
Belgium and wait to long (or the store made the selection for you) you
can not get the original language back.

Both languages are on the 'hidden' partition, but after the choice, the
things you are not allowed to have (including sometimes games and other
Windows version) will be deleted, including the 'other' language.

This just to show that I have indept knowledge of what is going on.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding how to use vm,

Indeed and please first try one out or learn more, because you make
yourself look silly, especially when you are trying to say that neither
I or Vahis know what we are talking about.

but from what I read, you
install vm (Virtual Box for instance) on your Linux partition.

Yes. I use Parallels. VMware is another very popular one.

Then you
install the operating system of your choice such as WinXP.

Indeed or any other

But on my
system and most of the new systems in retail stores the computer now comes
with recovery program that wipes your drive clean. How can you get the
WinXP installed to the Linux virtual machine in this instance?

The virtual machine is a machine within the machine, so probably it
might not work, or it could work. No idea, but that is a Windows issue
and probably an OEM or even a Lisence issue, not a Linux issue.

Or does it just address the original C drive on the original partition?

No, it does not.

Forget about the instalation of Windows. That is a Windows issue and
should be handled in a Windows group.

Say I have 10.3 running and I want to install 11.0Beta2 on a virtual
machine. What I do is start up Parallels. What I see is a screen whit a
'ON' button somewhere. When I press that button, the virtual machine
boots. What I see on my desktop is a screen that shows a system booting.
This is IN the Parallels program. That system boots. It is not a real
computer, it is a _virtual_ computer. When I do nothing, it will give me
an error, becaus ethe 'disk' is sees is also a virtual disk. On my
'real' system that is an 8GB file. Not a partition, a file.

To install Linux in my virtual PC, I need to get an ISO and install my
OS inside that virtual PC.

To connect between the virtual and the real one is possible, just like
between two real machines. So that happens via network.
http://www.parallels.com/ is a place where you can download a demo for
parallels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine for more info

houghi
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