Re: My zypper dissapeared

On 2008-08-27, houghi <houghi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Vahis wrote:
No, because when you get the kernel, you need to reboot. Not something
you want to do.

But this was done at shutdown, so there's gonna be a boot?

OK, I thought you were talking about the bot time, because of the use of
at.

I was, first, when talking about at.
Then I replied to you about the shut down thing.

So again what I propose is:
1) Machines that seldom are durned off
a) just use cron

I do. +email tells me when to do interactive things, I will choose time.

2) Machines that are often turned off
a) With the boot do the update without the kernel. That way you
always have the latest version. Use the `at` to do it when
the PC is idle
b) With the shutdown do the update with the kernel. That way
if there is something, you need to reboot and that is what
you are doing anyway.

This should be made available in YaST to choose. Just like the current
"Automatic Updates"

Make a request, I'll vote.

YOU make the request. I don't need it. ;-)

I don't need it either. Many others might although they don't know it :)

But it's your (good) concept. I don't want credit for
being the one who got houghi's idea into the distro as his own.


Obviously if you have a LOT of PC's, like in an office, you will also
have a server, so use that to do get the updates and download from
there. No need to bother the servers on the internet with 15.000
downloads at 09:00 and 17:00

The server would do it at night time on an odd minute.

Now when you do changes with cron, it takes the time from now, instead
of a fixed time in the past. Because that ment that the whole worls
started at the same time, causing problems, at least potentially, with
the servers.

Very good practice. Also the 50 or whatever PC:s should be cloned with
the aid of a disk image to start with. Or at least with AutoYaST which
I've never tried.

NOOOOOOOOOO. Not a disk immage. The power of YaST is that you have
AutoYaST and can have the same even with different hardware.

In case (I've seen this) they purchase 50 PC:s in one go.
An image is great there, install one and clone it.

Or just cp /dev/x /dev/y

Copying takes far less time than installing no matter how automated.

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