Re: OpenSuSE 11.1 install problem !
- From: Happy Oyster <happy.oyster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:51:11 +0200
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:10:57 +0100, David Bolt <blacklist-me@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, I do know it's certainly not a good idea but I have done it in the
past and will probably do so again sometime in the future. The
important thing to not do, if you're going to use X as root, is to
*keep* *out* *of* *the* *users* *home* *directories* or, if you
manipulate something in a users home directory, use chown to
recursively set the ownership of the users home directory to that user.
That way any changed or incorrectly owned files become owned by that
user and it prevents some of the problems of having root-owned files
cause when trying to start X as the normal user.
And THERE is a damned big bullshit of SuSE (or whoever is responsible for THIS
bug): If a directory has the rights set as you want them, the order to the
system to change the rights ALSO for the lower subdirectories and files, this
order is not obeyed. I ran into this uncounted times, before I realized that I
had to set tha right so some mess, and then, in the second run set them to what
I really wanted. THEN the order ways obeyed and the rights were changed.
If I order a machine to do something, THEN IT HAS TO OBEY. Anything else is
SHIT. And, note, this is not the only case where the Linux messes up by NOT
DOING what it is ordered. This type or bloody mess exists for at least 20 years,
and already began in DOS area. The insane programmers had to insert extra
routines to make this shit. They looked at "was something changed?". And, if
nothing was changed, then they ignored the command, instead of obeying it.
It is very important, sometimes, to do something DESPITE it SEEMS to be not
neccessary. And it is MY DECISION, I AM THE BOSS OF THE MACHINE, to have this or
that done. But no, some idiot programmer messes up... It is so disgusting.
Just log in as root. No x.
Then command init 3
Then command sax2
Then configure your display. Once it's OK leave sax2.
Unless you know the GUI will work with the settings you supplied, make
sure you test them out before leaving sax2.
There also is a damned big shit, which cost me a monitor. It is a big mess of
a) the SuSE installer
b) the monitor manufacturer (Samsung)
The point is: The monitor does not have a way to reset it to factory values. I
called Samsung and could very well imagine the big plate-size eyes of the tech
support at the other end of the phone-line.
The mess happens like this: The computer sends data to the monitor. The monitor
either accepts it or automatically readjusts. There is no way to prevent the
monitor from doing so. They are made for the ordinary idiot users, you know...
Now some programs have these parameters, others have others. To make it more
complicated: use the monitor on several machines by having a switch for "source
A", "source B", "source C", etc... each time other position data is used, and in
some cases the monitor readjusts, and in some cases it doesn't.
Now, if the monitor readjusts for source A, switch to source B. Does the monitor
readjust NOW, or not? If not you have areas invisible. Very nice to use a gui
Now enters the real big mess: the SAX installer. It is not possible to use
absolute data. I tried to find where the position parameters are store. In an
older verson, som things were tore, but in the newwer version... all gone... NO
I do know which data the monitor needs, but it is not possbile to tell this data
the damned Linux system!
About 20 years ago, there was a real cute machine, a customer brought along.
Atari, IIRC. There you could "wheel through" the EXACT figures of the individual
parameters of synchronization, etc. EACH data value you could enter directly, by
hand. The PC was a piece of junk, compared with that.
Now, that was 20 years ago. Did the folks of the SuSE scene learn anything from
these old days? NO! If you want to adjust the position on the monitor screen,
you have to use a messy, smeary, filled diapers program and "move" things ON
SCREEN. But, idiots as they are, they start with values the monitor perhaps
cannot handle. The monitor blanks out. How do you a monitor positioning without
seeing it!? Also, the installer uses the same idiotic start values YOU DO NOT
WANT. but you cannot keep iot from doing so. And, not to forget, you cannot
enter the data in , say, a table directly in a file on HDD. So you are stuck
with a stinking shitten diaper messing up the screen. Again and again...
- the monitor blanks out
- the monitor readjusts
- the installer starts with idiotic values
- the data set cannot be entered directly
Now comes the monitor killer: The computer sends data, and the monitor
readjusts. You switch. The monitor cannot capture anymore AND IT CANNOT
READJUST. You cannot enter the values by hand to make the monitor capture again,
because YOU CANNOT ENTER THE DATA DIRECTLY. No reset, neither by hardware or
special command to the monitor. SAX is too bloody damned shit to move the
parameters. So a monitor, with its hardware PERFECTLY running, is shot.
Good bye, monitor; good bye, Samsung...
TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE ! TINA LIVE !
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