Re: New Linux User Suggestions

From: Vwakes (vwakeNOSPAM100_at_softhome.net)
Date: 07/17/03 

Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:27:52 GMT

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 Marty wrote:

>You seem to be misinterpreting my points -

No I didn't. It was my observations just like how it was yours.

>I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Linux, or having to learn
>more, or being complex.

I didn't say you did. I am not trying to make you a windows troll or
whatever.

>To me, these are not problems. I also know how my car works, and used
>to do all my maintenance. Do you think everyone who wants to drive
>should do the same?

No. What I am saying is abt those win users who crib abt linux without
any legitimate reasons. Most of the time, the problem is they are just
new and they just have to get used to it. Just like how this post
started and you defended it without any base.

>And you're confusing complexity with usefullness or something.

I am not. As I said it's not complex. It's only the mindblock that one
has abt linux that is complex.

>Something is complex whether you understand it or not.

Yes. It depends on the context.

>In a former life, I repaired stereo equipment, including cassette
>recorders. I could fix anthing on a cassette recorder, but I still
>considered it a complex piece of machinery.

I agree.

>>>Windows users who are interested in Linux read that, and think Linux
>>>users must be dumb if they can't figure out how to use Windows.
>>Nah. Using Linux is obviously one level up than windows. Not all windows
>>users used linux before but all linux users used windows before.
>
>That's a statement that can't possibly be true. Come on now, *all*???
>Do you really think there are no Linux users who haven't used windows?

Err..I didn't mean it literally. Say 99 % or whatever.

>>>My opinion is that Linux is not as good as many make it out to be,
>>>and Windows is not as bad.
>>That's very subjective indeed. Linux can be all it was/is made out to
>>be and more. Understandably, it relies heavily on the users who use
>>it. So if you can't get maximum out of it then blame yourself.
>I could say the same about any OS.

Yes. You can say that to any tool. But linux requires the user to do
something on their part unlike others.

>>>That doesn't mean Linux is not good, or Windows is not bad, or vice
>>>versa.
>>Yep which leads to the fact that we are arguing over things that are
>>subjective. Remove it and you will see which is better for you and
>>how.
>Exactly my point. You've basically said nothing that contradicts what I
>said, yet you're acting as if you are.

You didn't see that I agree with you without agreeing. I did contradict
your first statement abt pretending.

>It's so typical of newsgroups like this, so I guess I should learn to
>ignore it.

This is uncalled for. It's typical of ppl to extrapolate to generality
from one instance, be this post or be it linux. Deal it case by case.

>I keep trying to come here to learn and share knowledge, but I keep
>getting sidetracked by people spreading misinformation and FUD.

I didn't spread any misinformation and I hope you have the wisdom to
know it. Tell any part of my post that does it.

>By the way, when people talk about Windows, if you don't mean
>NT/2000/etc, you're not really comparing apples to apples, so you
>should specify which one.

It's all the same. It depends on the context however, and this one
didn't dictate a need to discriminate.

>I've mainly used NT/2000, so I'm used to Windows being pretty reliable;
>I can't remember the last time I was forced to reboot, or got a BSOD.

Now you are trolling...

>
>

V.

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