Re: exim server is dead in the water

From: Flip ([remove)
Date: 10/05/03


Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:40:23 -0400

Howdy.
> Maybe, but exim can do for you things that the NT system would never
> manage.
I imagine that's true. However, right now I can't even get the basics
completed before even being able to look at the advanced stuff. The
difficult thing is, my impression is, if it's difficult to do/setup the easy
stuff, just how complicated is it to get the hard stuff working? I know, I
know, it's more powerful, therefore it's more work, but can you see my point
of view?

> Exim is a sophisticated mail server that can do very complex things for
> you. The price is that you have to describe the workings of your whole
> mail system in the config file - it doesn't come with a basic default
> system.
Is it true it's easier to setup than Sendmail? When I started that was
really my only criteria, just to get something more secure and easier than
Sendmail was.

> If you had stuck with Exim 3, the version that Debian supports, you
> could have used the eximconfig tool to give you a working system. By
> installing Exim 4 you have struck off on your own and this requires a
> good understanding of the basic workings of e-mail in general, not just
> Exim - more than you may currently possess, based on what you have said
> so far.
Does Debian only come with the Exim 3 vers? hhmm I wonder if it's
worthwhile switching to Exim 3 then? What would be a ver you would suggest
then? There isn't a eximconfig tool for ver 4.22 of exim? Shame.

> If you don't have any special need for Exim's features then you could
> save yourself a lot of trouble by switching to Postfix. Postfix is less
> complex and less configurable but also a) more secure, b) performs
> better under hight load and c) will usually work out of the box with
> only a few parameters needing to be tweaked.
I tried to look into Postfix but the last time I looked I need to compile
it. That's not something I want to do. I just went through that for a week
with the newest Exim and it was nothing but a nightmare. Dependency
problems. gcc problems. I installe RH9 a few times to get the development
libraries installed and it still didn't work. Yes, I could have and indeed,
did do the rpms for the libraries, but after two nights of that dependency
tree, I figured it wasn't worth the hassle. When all was said and done, I
was actually a few steps backwards in knowledge and forward a few steps in
frustration.

> It's very difficult to say given that you can build almost any kind of
> mail set-up with Exim and I have no idea what you have built.
That's true. I'm sorry. I'm trying to get a personal stable mail server
up. Rogers in Canada is notorious for their servers going down. This way I
can always get my mail. I also host a few websites for other friends
(virtual hosts).

Thanks.



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