Re: Newbie About to loose hair!!

From: Chris F.A. Johnson (c.fa.johnson_at_rogers.com)
Date: 01/09/04


Date: 9 Jan 2004 00:30:50 GMT

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 at 23:42 GMT, Garry Knight wrote:
> Hrvoje Spoljar wrote:
>
>> I can't believe my eyes HONEST, has any of you smart asses ever thought
>> about how easy it is for someone whose mother tongue isn't english
>
> I'll let the 'smart asses' answer for themselves, but since you replied to
> my post I'll reply to yours. Have you ever thought how easy it is for
> someone whose mother tongue *is* English, or any other language for that
> matter, to try to understand enough of what a post means in order to answer
> it in an effective way? I'm sure you have.
>
>> So I ask all of u flamers how many languages u speak, or perhaps how
>> many FOREIGN LANGUAGES YOU SPEAK and WRITE
>
> It's interesting that you use the word 'flamers' yet two of the four people
> you quoted (at the bottom of your post) were simply talking about how they
> feel about incorrect use of grammar. I didn't see anywhere in the thread
> where they were flaming anyone. And Juha and I were simply making puns
> based on the content of previous posts in the thread. So who's flaming who?

    s/who?/whom?/

   ;)

>:o)
>
>> PS. for the Jeffrey Silverman n others in text below
>> it's a 'bother' not 'bather'
>
> That was Juha's comment, not Jeffrey's. If you follow the attributions and
> quote levels you'll see that straight away. And the 3 (or 4?) mistakes in
> the sentence indicated that it was a joke and that he knows very well how
> 'bother' is spelt.
>
>> And just one more fact I can tell from my own experience
>> that people whose mother tongue isn't English have better knowledge of
>> grammar than the native speakers.
>
> And Juha is a case in point: his grasp of English spelling and grammar is
> better than that of 90% of the natively-English-speaking posters in this
> group. And isn't that the point that some of these people have been making?
> It's precisely *because* they are accomplished spellers and grammarians
> that misuse of the language (as they perceive it) 'drives them crazy', or
> 'bonkers', or even 'bathers' them 'grately'.

    It has been my experience since the BBS days (good heavens! It's
    been 20 years!) that those whose posts are worth reading use
    correct grammar and good spelling. On the internet, I give more
    leeway, since, for a large percentage, English is not the first
    language, but the principle still holds.

    In don't care about obvious typos; and fingers can get into
    habitual patterns and sometimes seem to have a mind of their
    own. For many years I worked for a University publication. My
    fingers developed a habit of writing "university" whenever I
    started a word with "uni". I wonder if the same applies to "then"
    when it should be "than" in the case of programmers?
 

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