Re: You missed the point.

From: Andy Fraser (andyfraser31_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 03/04/04


Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:52:53 +0000

On Thursday 04 March 2004 3:30 pm, Autocoder uttered these immortal words:

>
>> Now as to the last hurdle (as I see it.) A school district here with an
>
> You missed the point, or more probably I rambled over it.

My comments here should be treated as light-hearted ramblings in response to
other ramblings etc :-)
 
> With Windows you insert said CD and wait for the bouncing ball, or if you
> have Windows set up really techie, you have to search for the setup icon
> and click on it. Simple. Really really simple. Of course, the software
> may be crap, the OS may crash if asked to accept input from the keyboard,
> but the install is REALLY REALLY SIMPLE.

If I want I can fire up KPackage or Synaptic, select the software I want to
install from the huge list of Debian packages and off it goes resolving
dependencies as it needs them. Very simple. I still use the command line
though :-). And there's no reboot afterwards although that's less common in
Windows now. My point is it can be just as easy as Windows :-)
 
> Anybody on this newsgroup (me included) can't see the forest for the
> trees. We LIKE problems to fix, programs to compile - it is probably the
> reason we got into Linux in the first place.

I like to fix problems in my spare time but I haven't compiled anything in
ages and don't want to be messing around during work time where I have
deadlines. Everything I want is available pre-packaged in Debian unstable
or from another deb source.

You are right about it being a reason I got into Linux though :-)
 
> To the average person (about 99.99xxx percent of the world) a computer is
> like a VCR. All they want is for it to do the job and whether it has 2 or
> 4 heads or auto tracking or online time setting is totally meaningless and
> they don't care. All they want to do is WATCH the TAPE.

There have been attempts to make an all in one consumer box for this sort of
person but for one reason or another they failed, at least here in the UK.
Maybe there should be a consumer box, maybe in a stylish all in one case
like Apple's angle-poise Mac thing that can sit on the coffee table.
Something with a flat screen that runs at a decent resolution (unlike all
those TV based efforts) that has a browser, email client and maybe a simple
office suite all retailing at an affordable price. Or am I now just talking
bollocks :-)

> And all this average person wants to do is use their software. No way, no
> how, not for all the software in china are they going to learn to
> ./configure make make_test make install and then resolve dependencies.
> Ain't gonna happen and if we insist, then Linux will be a very good OS
> used on very few desktops.

This brings me back to APT and my pipe-dream all in one consumer box :-)
 
> (Of course, some of my friends think this is a good thing. Keep Linux for
> us enlightened folk and let the swarming masses stay with the tinkertoy
> OS. If you can't use a command line, you don't need a computer...etc.etc)

I must admit that when I see questions posted by newbies about network
issues and it's obvious that they skipped the stage where they should've
learnt about TCP/IP networking first I think the same thoughts :-)

<snip>
> .end_of_line
> ***************
> By the way. The school district didn't give up, just backed up for some
> more questions. And the techie youngsters (young from my standpoint, that
> is) learned a valuable lesson known to all veteran presenters in that you
> NEVER go into a demo without testing everything that you want to demo.
> Murphy is alway standing by. The proper answer at the time would have
> been "let us research what you need and get back to you."

That is so very, very true :-)

-- 
Andy.


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