Re: Given Up on Linux - not yet :)
From: Mike Bothwell (mbothwel_at_swbell.net)
Date: 04/12/04
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:58:23 GMT
Walter Mautner wrote:
> Mike Bothwell wrote:
>
>
>>There is a bug report. It is with the AIC7xxx on the Intel L440GX. There
>>is a boot fix for the install but the install worked and then it locked on
>>the scsi drvier after the install on the first boot. I have given up on
>>this machine. The machine is destined to "RED HAT LINUX 7.3".
>>
>
> Ok. So you wanted to ask a quiz question, slightly provocative?
>
>> Problem is, these post are full of smart a idiots trying to be experts
>> that
>>know absolutely nothing but to make idiot remarks like "There is no such
>>thing Linux 7, why should we guess what you have?". If you had people
>
>
> Your question indicated in the first place, that you neither (appeared to
> have) had any clue about what you were running, nor gave it any useful
> error description. "Will not boot" is just lame and happens every other day
> as well as with windows.
> Rants like this ending in "linux sucks" trigger troll alerts everywhere.
> Now forgive the failure, there are over-sensitive people here. It's like
> getting angry from too much spam (=trolls here) and filtering too
> ridiculous.
No, YOU ASSUMED I neither had or gave a clue about what I was running.
I knew well what I was trying to run and it was Fedora Core 1. The
comment was about the only version I could get to run on the L440GX was
Linux 7. Excuse the incomplete description, but I started the post with
"I'm a newbie to Linux" and the responses to my incomplete description
were at best immature. The helpful response would have been, "Can you
clarify Linux 7. Which version/Developer". And your "will not boot is
just lame" is no better. It's a childish response. I don't believe
there is anyone here who would respond to this post to my face in person
with any of the remarks, especially if they were in business. The way I
se it is you guys are experts and we come here for help, not immature
responses. I've been in technical sales a long time and my job is to
let the customer vent and not respond with "LAME" responses like you
people give. Over sensitive is an understatement and missing a couple
of other adjectives.
>
>
>>that cared about solving problems instead of being a smart a, maybe more
>>people would be willing to help in solving problems and contributing to
>>the list
>>you referred to. I'm sure the Linux community doesn't deserve these
>>people, but you got em and you can keep em.
>>
>
> Technical newsgroups are not made for "group cuddling" :).
> Instead, they are populated by engineers and other staff being used to exact
> questions derived from your own problem analysis that hit the nail on its
> head. Of course, too much expected from a linux newbie, so it's time to
> accomodate.
And that is the problem. Engineers are generally more concerned with
appearing to be intelligent and spend more time trying to convince
people of that instead of actually asking questions and trying to help
people. And don't even try the "group coddling" comment. Look at the
questions from the newbies on this group and see if there is no
coddling. The problem here was my question was above most of the people
who bothered to respond to this. There was only one person who really
had a clue and that was "Forrest" who replied to my first post on 4/9 at
6:40 pm. I tried several times to post and get more help after that
original post and his suggestion did not work. When I got no responses,
I purposely titled the post and got lots of responses. Most were as I
expected...no help at all. Your arrogance hinders your ability to be
humble and help those who need it, newbie or not.
>
>>"Aaron Gray" <aarongray@DELETETHIS.aarongray.org> wrote in message
>
> ...
> Now please stop TOFU (TOp post FUll quote) next time. Thanks!
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