Re: Given Up on Linux

From: Mike Bothwell (mbothwel_at_swbell.net)
Date: 04/13/04 

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 05:49:27 GMT

Ruel Smith wrote:
> On Monday April 12, 2004 9:38 pm, Mike Bothwell vomitted:
>
>
>>My apologies, but unfortunately, I gave up on the L440GX with Fedora. I
>>Loaded Windows 2000 Server on it and it went fine. But, I took another
>>box I had and loaded Fedora on it and it went without a hitch (which is
>>the box I'm on now). As I explained in my original post, I'm a newbie
>>to Linux. I did not intend (at this point) to spend that much time
>>trying to get the L440 to work. I have bookmarked your recommended
>>pages and will attempt it again in the future. Right now I'm in the
>>middle of helping my mother sttle her estate (my stepdad passed away on
>>Feb 22nd, and now I'm helping my stepmother settle hers, as my father
>>passed away last Thursday and the service is tomorrow. I was looking to
>>keep my mind busy for a couple of days over the weekend to escape all
>>the stress so I turned to computers and the L440 was my project.
>>Unfortunately, I learned a valuable lesson in NOT TURNING TO THIS
>>NEWSGROUP for help. I will figure it out later, but I do sincerely
>>appreciate your help. As I also said in my original posts, I have about
>>20 computers around the house with every op sys I can get my hands on
>>loaded on different machines. I do it for fun and profit and I enjoy
>>learning. I've got Fedora on another box that is up and running SAMBA
>>and other functions in my Windows network. I'm in transition and
>>learning slowly as time permits. Also, as I said, I apologized for my
>>remarks to those who believe Linux is something to get so offended over
>>that it is worth fighting over when someone says a discouraging word.
>>Problem is, it is an OS. If someone said I sucked, I wouldn't ask them
>>to meet me at the flagpole after school. Some idiots would.
>
>
> I'm not offended, but I get sooooo tired of people giving up on Linux after
> they've had a bad experience with a single particular distro not getting it
> installed/setup correctly. There are other distros that may work better on
> your hardware and there's always a fix somewhere. However, so many people
> feel the need to badmouth Linux because they had a difficult time setting
> it up on their hardware. Like no one has ever had difficulty getting any
> hardware working with Windows? However, people find it necessary to just
> totally dump Linux in a hurry and badmouth it.
>
> I installed SuSE Linux on this 440BX machine just fine and it found all of
> my hardware for me and set it all up correctly with just one exception - my
> monitor was wrong, but it was supported and I had to correctly choose it
> from the list. Everything else was correctly detected and configured. Even
> my Dell supplied Soundblaster Live! card works perfectly, even though
> others have had difficulty with ones supplied by Dell. It has twice the
> snap WinXP had on this very machine and far better reliability.
>
> I installed WinXP on my other machine and ran into quite a few problems.
> Most notable was my Castlewood Orb drive. XP refused to load unless there
> was a cartridge in the drive and would crash to the BSOD (yes, it's still
> there in XP) if I ejected the cartridge at anytime. It was useless. I
> jumped through hoops with Castlewood's support and just trying to figure it
> out. It never did work. Should I have just dumped XP, claiming that the
> thing had no problems in Linux and therefore XP sucks (which actually is
> the case - I have 2 of these drives)? These claims are just rediculous!
>
> So excuse us for hearing for the nth time that someone ran into troubles and
> Linux didn't just hold their hand through the process a little more and
> magically make everything work for them. Boo hoo...
>
> I'll say again, if you're new to Linux, you should have tried something like
> Mandrake. Fedora is still rough around the edges.
>
>

I certainly hope you didn't miss that I had not given up and Fedora is
on two of my boxes, just not the L440GX+. I've been able to do most
everything I've tried so far with Fedora. Samba is running fine, email
and news is working (i'm on it now). I've enjoyed it now for several
months. And no, I've never had that kind of incompatibility in not
being able to boot a MB when installing Windows. I bad mouth Windows as
much as I bad mouth linux and I've had many more opps to bad mouth
windows cuz I've been doing it for years. However, when someone tells
me windows sucks, I agree, I don't take it personal and start insulting
those who have that opinion. Why? Because it is an operating system.
Period.

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