Re: Linux Community Shows Its True Colors (Was Suse 9.1 kills Windows partitions. Use Linux-->Lose Data)
From: Bjarne Gorking (g2or4king_at_va6lhal.info)
Date: 05/17/04
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Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:07:07 +0200
Peggy Wanka wrote:
> Once again the psychotic, rabid, obsessed Linux community at large
> shows its true colors.
>
> With regard to the thread:
>
> " Suse 9.1 kills Windows partitions. Use Linux-->Lose Data......."
>
> A link was given to a reputable publication, eWeek, and several other
> links were also given demonstrating that in fact there is indeed a
> problem with re-sizing an NTFS partition.
>
> *****************EXAMPLE*******************************
>
> "The article said the NTFS data was intact. But they couldn't boot.
> Fedora doesn't have NTFS resizer and dozens of people reported this
> problem up to this day since February:
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115980
>
> Some googling might give the answer:
> http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#troubleshoot
>
> =====================================================================
> Q: Something went wrong, I can't boot! Did I lose everything?
>
> A: It's not as easy to destroy all data as usually thought. In theory,
> three things might go wrong during resizing an NTFS partition and
> setting it up for dual boot,
>
> 1. NTFS resizing by ntfsresize.
> 2. Repartitioning by fdisk, cfdisk, Parted, QTParted, DiskDrake,
> YaST, etc.
> 3. Boot manager setup using LILO, GRUB, etc.
>
> In all cases, we have met, the problem was introduced in either step
> 2. or step 3. and not by the use of ntfsresize. In most cases this
> means, your data is still intact, you just can not access it.
> ....
> ========================================================================
>
> People have this problem using SUSE, Mandrake, Fedora (no NTFS support
> at all!). What's common? GRUB(?), parted and the different geometry
> detection in the 2.6 kernel. If the geometry isn't set properly in the
> partition table Windows can't boot. Some people also reported (see red
> hat bugzilla entry above) Partion Magic reported bad partition table.
>
> In short, it's not NTFS problem but something else. People also
> reported setting CHS or Auto to LBA in the BIOS fixed the boot problem
> in many cases."
>
> ******************END EXAMPLE***************************************
>
>
> Also, do you think that eWeek did not check with SuSE before printing
> this article?
>
> Of course they did and the problem will most likely be at the top of
> the very long linux bug list.
>
> The bug is minor and resizing live partitions is always a very
> dangerous thing to do no matter what the operating system or program
> used to do it.
> I have lost data when Partition Magic crapped out on me so this is not
> exclusive to Linux.
>
> However, that is not the point.
>
> What *is* the point is the manner in which the Linux community reacted
> to what appears to be something akin to their mother being slammed for
> a problem that does exist.
>
> The responses from the Linux advocates are pitiful.
>
> Denial seems to be the first line of defense.
>
> You nutcases think that if you all get together and deny the problem
> that people will believe there really is no problem.
>
> A quick Google search, like the above Example, shows how foolish you
> all are.
>
> Making up half truths seems to be a close second.
>
> IOW, YES the data is still there and IS accessible via Linux. But what
> good does that do the user when he needs to run Dreamweaver?
> What good is it if he can get to his data via Linux but can't run any
> of his Windows applications?
>
> Also how is a DOS boot disk going to understand an NTFS partition?
> Another lie propagated by the Linux community (IOW boot dos and fix
> it).
>
> Then of course we have the filthy, disgusting name calling which seems
> to be a mantra of the Linux community at large.
>
> With one or two exceptions, IOW people who acknowledged a problem,
> offered solutions, the responses are a huge embarrassment to the Linux
> community.
>
> So this is the type of people that a Linux user will go to for
> support?
>
> Great job guys.
>
> No wonder Linux and it's users have a reputation for being
> supercilious, pontificating, rabid ass holes.
>
> You jokers do far more to damage the reputation of Linux and scare
> away new users than any Windows troll could ever do.
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
> Peggy Wanka
> "Don't Bother To Thanka"
Lose what?, if you mess with your harddrives, take a backup before you
start. Who could think of downloading/buy a new OS and just install it on a
PC used for work or homeuse.
I have installed lots of lots of times and I haven't killed one single
Windows partition until now. Yesterday I did, but that was on purpose,
didn't have the needs for MS anymore ,, ,goodbuy bill
-- Venlig hilsen / Kind regards Bjarne Gorking - - - - - - - - Enjoying Linux SuSE 9.0, the fun is back. = = = = = = = = Remove numbers from address
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