Re: can someone please help me get this ausio chip working?

From: Clive Dove (chdove_at_rogers.com)
Date: 06/15/04 

Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:45:16 GMT

heavenbound wrote:

>
> "Clive Dove" <chdove@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:TEgzc.29310$0FI1.1052@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>> heavenbound wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the respone. Here's the deal as clearly I think as i can
>> > make it.
>> >
>> > The AC97 cmedia is my other pc which has no linux on it. When I
>> > installed mandrake 10 i got a buzzing sound only. i did try
>> > mandrake 10 once. i also installed suse 9.1 and got no sound at all
>> > using the 9.1 suse live cd.
>> >
>> > my own pc has the sound blaster audigy. i installd mandrake 10 last
>> > night or something and it has working sound, just fine i think. i
>> > installed suse 9.1 via an ftp install 2 days ago, it had sound i
>> > think the first time i booted it after i installed it. then i
>> > swapped nic cards, put in another and since then got no audio at
>> > all. it recognized the sound blaster audigy platinum card in the
>> > control center and also i deleted it from there and reinstalled it.
>> > no sound still. so i put mandrake 10 and got sound fine.
>> >
>> > i want suse 9.1 on that pc but need the sound to work properly. i
>> > like it much nicer then mandrake for how good the GUI looks and how
>> > smooth all the fonts are and all that. i'm a GUI guy.
>> >
>> > anyway i really need to get the sound working properly in suse 9.1
>> > on the pc which has the audigy platinum card.
>>
>>
>> OK, then for now we are working on system that is using an audigy
>> card in a pci slot and with a sound system that is working in
>> Mandrake bur not in SuSe.
>>
>> I am assuming that SuSe has a similar kernal to Mandrake 10.
>>
>> While still running Mandrake and while in your home directory, run
>> this command from a root prompt
>>
>> lsmod -> modules.txt
>>
>> This will give you a record of the modules installed. There will be a
>> lot of them for the sound card, but the alsa audigy modeule is
>> autoprobing and so when the boot process runs modprobe on snd-emu10k1
>> it fetches the rest of the modules. I Just want to see what will
>> come up once we do a standard install of suse and compare it to what
>> you have now.
>>
>> You can also use the gui facility Mandrake Control Center which is in
>> your KDE menu as "Configure your Computer"
>> In it, click on Hardware, then again on Hardware then scan down to
>> Soundcard and the sub-menu entry will be the module that Mandrake
>> installed, Highlight it and you will see a list of particulars.
>> Click on the "Run config tool" button then hover your pointer over
>> the browse arrows at the end of the selection button beside Driver:
>> and a small list will pop up showing what Mandrake considers to be
>> alternative drivers for this card, In my system they are emu10k1,
>> audigy and snd-emu10k1 but yours may be different as you have a
>> different soundblaster version,
>>
>> Then before re-installing SuSe, make sure that the on-board sound in
>> the
>> bios has been disabled. While you are in the bios, make sure that
>> "PNP
>> AWARE OS" (or whatever your bios calls it) is also disabled. This
>> feature is now a historical curiosity that has not been needed by
>> either system for some time but which manufacturers still seem to
>> want
>> to leave enabled. The only current effect is to annoy the operating
>> system.
>>
>> Re-install Suse and tell us what it chooses as a sound card module.
>> Run these commands and tell us the results
>>
>> lspci | grep audio -i
>> grep sound /etc/modules.conf
>> lsmod | grep emu10k1 (from a root prompt)
>> lsmod | grep audigy (from a root prompt)
>>
>>
>> One of the above lsmod commands may result in a null return
>>
>> If your system is using alsa, (which is the preferred one to use as
>> it will gradually replace the ossfree system as the default sound
>> system) then you should open KMix or another gui mixer window that
>> lets you see what channels are muted and what are not muted. and run
>> your volume and
>> pcm sliders to max. Apparently that is needed in some systems to
>> jump start the sound system (I don't know why, but I did struggle
>> with a sound system for a while before trying it)
>>
>> If you get interference sounds, you may have to start shutting down
>> channels one at a time to find out which channels are conflicting
>> with
>> each other. In the most recent KMix version, note that the input
>> channels and the output channels are now on different pages in the
>> mixer window.
>>
>> Some guesswork is at play here on my part. Hopefully some SuSe guru
>> will jump in.
>>
>>
>> Clive
>>
>>
>
> Clive maybe you can tell me this.
>
> Install Suse 9.1 with a default install. i don't have all 5 cd's, only
> 4, so i can't install everything like i want to. so i choose a default
> install, uses 2 cd's. after it's installed it works fine for sound and
> all that. i then went to control center, changed install source to ftp
> install and installed everything else that i dind't install
> orriginally. reboot, no sound. why?

What was on that disk 5?

My preference would be to do the default install then SELECTIVELY
install whatever additional packages that I want from the ftp mirror.

If people at suse have done a reasonable job, the default install ought
to have given you the essential parts of a linux system and you can
then pick and choose additional packages or classes of packages not
only from those that would have been on disk 5 but also from the whole
tree.

What additional packages did you install? Were any of them part of a
kernel update or part of a sound system update? Was there any addition
of KDE components, possibly including aRts?

A wholesale install of disparate packages to a working install leaves
endless possibilities for something to go wrong and miniscule
opportunity to track it down. Selective updating helps to identify
problems as the packages are added.

Try re-installing the default system and then let us know what there
still in the ftp tree that you really want but that the default install
did not give you.

Clive