Re: The Linux Philosophy?

From: Bit Twister (BitTwister_at_localhost.localdomain)
Date: 08/12/04


Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:54:41 GMT

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:13:00 -0400, Mike King wrote:

Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Always provde distribution and release level when posting questions.
It could help you get better answers.

> I don't have the same understanding of
> Linux as I do with Windows, so I'm not as comfort using it.

Just like riding a bike, the more you do it the easier it gets.

> It would help me out a lot if I could find an article on how one
> uses Linux.

Hey, if you have your desktop running, you _use_ it the same way.

> For example, typical a Windows user would annually perform system
> cleaning such as backup files and formatting the hard drive due to
> how much Windows installations can get cluttered.

Diskfragmentation as you understand it is not a problem and you can
forget about it.

As for stuff cluttering up your drive. The logs rotate once a month if
the system is on Sunday morning around 4 am depending on what distribution.

> The information I'm looking for is how does one use
> Linux over a period of time. I know one can upgrade their system by
> upgrading the kernel quite easily as well as applications by using rpm,
> apt-get or some other utility.

There you go, rpm as example will install the new application package
and remove the old code.

> So more specifically, do Linux systems get cluttered requiring a format?

Hmmm, kind of hard to talk about that in your terms. Where winders
will do a new release every 3 or 4 years linux may do it every other
year or every year. During those major upgrades you can get major
upgrades of the applications. Some of the application's old
configuration files may cause the new application problems. The other
things which happen is packages and their contents get split or
renamed.

If you were to do upgrades, some of the new packages would not get
installed and some of the old packages would not get all the files
updated.

Lots of people have had no problems upgrading and other people have
had little problems here and there which cleared up after a clean
(format) install. Kind of like upgrading from win to win85.

I will create seperate ~6 gig partitions, install new releases into
one, play with it until I have it like I want it and the old partition
becomes the new test partition.

> I guess what I'm trying to find out is the philosophy of how does
> Linux operated.

It is designed to run 24/7 and allows you to stop applications,
upgrade them, and start them backup without taking the system down.

> I tend to think about OSs through the eyes of Windows. I can see
> Linux is totally different, but I'm only seeing ten percent of the
> big picture and I want to know more.

Hmmm, 10%, that is pretty good. Complete Mandrakelinux install on my
box shows more than 3,700 programs.

Work your way throuh http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz
That should give you enough knowledge to be quite comfortable.

Once you finish that, http://www.tldp.org should have something else to read.
Example, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html for writting
scripts (bat files).



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