Re: 2005 -- We ust take on Windows

From: DFS (nospam_at_nospam.com)
Date: 01/02/05 

Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:47:02 -0500

rapskat wrote:
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>> What is interesting about this is that it puts to bed the myth that
>> Microsoft somehow twists the Dell arm on the desktop to preclude any
>> attempt to sell linux. Far from it, based on the server evidence,
>> which shows that Dell would happily ship anything that grows their
>> markets and makes them a profit. But, alas, they no longer ship
>> linux on desktop lines. Why? Dell doesn't think there is any
>> business case for doing that, obviously, and that's just another
>> vote against linux on the desktop albeit a pretty important vote.
>
> Vendors earn discounts via partnerships with M$. M$ has stated in no
> uncertain terms that offering Linux in direct competition with their
> own products will void said partnership and disqualify the vendor for
> future discounts and benefits.

Have they? Where? When? Surely you have some written proof of this claim.

> In other words, "Push Linux on the desktop over Windows and we will
> pull your card." No vendor nowadays can afford to have M$ as an
> antagonist.

Why?

> You will notice prominently posted on many vendors sites "We recommend
> Micosoft Windows <version> for <whatever>". This is one of the terms
> of the partnership in order to qualify for the discounts.
>
> M$ effectively 0wnz these vendors. They can't even wipe their asses
> without M$'s ok.

Wrong. Dell and HP sell what, about 2/3 of the pre-built systems available.
Both of them offer machines with Linux pre-installed.

See? Everything you say is uninformed or a blatant lie

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