Re: Advertising "Linux Compatible"

From: Jose Lopez (Maheffe_at_jose.net)
Date: 01/03/05 

Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:07:48 -0500

On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:40:58 +0000, 7 wrote:

> Jose Lopez wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:10:17 +0000, 7 wrote:
>>
>>
>>> GNU/Linux has advanced to the stage that it
>>> supports more drivers out of the box than windopes.
>>> If its not the case, please let me know.
>>
>> Yawwn. More half truths from a Linux kook.
>>
>> Let me know when Linux supports more MODERN (2 years or less) hardware
>> than Windows does and make certain you include the fact that said hardware
>> comes with a CD including drivers for Windows.
>> A CD that often includes bonus programs like Nero, Adobe and others that
>> you as a Linux user have PAID FOR, but can't use.

Here we have the typical LINO-KOOK reply.
Let's dissect it and have some fun!

> Nope - you can buy OEM, it means you don't buy the bits you don't need.
It still comes with a driver disk.

> If you do that with windopes, you could be fucked because the
> software you then install could be deemed an illegal copy
> and/or unaudited therefore within the rights of the BSA to haul your
> ass on over to the courts to explain.

No it's not.
You can even LEGALLY buy an OEM copy of Windows XP as long as it is
included with a piece of *hardware*.
Notice, nowhere does it say the *hardware* has to work.
Totally legal.
 

 
> Why don't you go on and ask the manufacturers?

Notice the not so subtle moving of the goal posts by the Linonut.

Ahh but YOU were the one who said Linux supports more hardware.
Now what does asking the manufacturers have to do with anything?
I get full support for Windows from them.
Why can't Linux support the hardware I listed, which is COMMON hardware.

 
> I mean I can install all the cards and printers I like in windopes, and
> the ones you have in your list,
> and almost nothing will work to the extent you indirectly claim for
> windopes in your list above.

What kind of a lie is that?
It ALL WORKS PERFECTLY UNDER WINDOWS.
You open the box, install the hardware, slap the CD in the drive and away
it goes.
How do you do that with Linux?

I'll tell you, you go on a letter writing, begging campaign to Creative,
begging them for Soundblaster 24 bit drivers.

Maybe in 3 years you will have them, maybe.

> Your dim view of the wonders of windopery doesn't allow you to
> understand that windopes hardly supports very many items of hardware.

Are you a complusive liar?
See that CD that fell on the floor when you opened up your shiny new
SBLive 24 bit?
Guess what it is used for? (Windows)
Guess what it won't work on? (Linux)

No OS vendor can predict what kind of hardware will be released after it's
own release.
Well Linux, seeing as they have the distribution of the month club might
be a little bit ahead on that one assuming of course the Linux kooks can
either beg for drivers or reverse engineer them in time for the next
distribution.

> I have to go to the manufacturers for most drivers but if they stopped
> doing them, then I'm stumped isn't it?

My guess is you are stumped trying to find the restroom at the local
homeless shelter.

 I could risk going to third
> parties that might hoard these ancient drivers illegally and there is no
> guarantee they haven't been infected with viruses because I don't have
> access to source code do I ?

Yawwn.
What you are describing is a day in the life of a Linux user.
We Windows users slap the CD in and the hardware works.
Just don't be an *** and lose the CD like MLW seems to do.

> Not with GNU/Linux - most things work fine with auto detect.

No the don't.
Stop ;ying already.
Scanners, printers, mice, USB devices, Firewire devices, RAID controllers
and modern day soundcards are highly problematic with Linux.
They work fine with Windows however.
Remember that CD you dropped on the floor?

 Those that
> don't work - I have to hunt for drivers, but almost always there is one
> out there.

Really?
Where is a VIA6410 driver that doesn't require an ancient version of Linux
to run and a kernel recompile at that?
Real popular on the Asus P4P800 boards.

Where is the SBLive 24 bit?

ATI full support driver not just a basic driver?

 And if the manufacturers are not providing drivers, then
> there is no reason for me to buy their crap is there when there are
> competing vendors that do similar product?

Moving the goalposts again are we?

FWIW your reply is a typical of the lame Linux advocates attempt at trying
to prove the impossible.
The fact is, Windows support of usable, modern hardware is far above
Linux's.
In fact what kind of a market would a piece of X86 hardware have if it
wasn't supported by Windows?

Think about it, then go back to the drawing board to come up with some
more lies to attempt to prove your lame points.