Re: The Horror Of CUPS. In Eric S. Raymond's Own Words.

From: Kier (vallon_at_tiscali.co.uk)
Date: 03/02/05 

Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:54:03 +0000

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:17:12 -0500, flatfish wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:09:53 +0000, Kier wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 15:41:20 -0500, flatfish wrote:
>>
>>> The jokers in COLA are sure quick on the draw when it comes to trying to
>>> discredit just about anyone who takes exception to Linux, or points out
>>> it's defects.
>>> The choir tosses on their robes and literally run over each other trying
>>> to get a good spot on the risers.
>>
>> There's no choir here, except you trolls, all bleating the same nonsense.
>>
>>
>>> You jokers are real fast on the draw when it comes to Bob Knox posting
>>> *his* problems with CUPS, so let's see how well you draw when dealing
>>> with an icon like Mr. Raymond.
>>
>> If he had wanted his problems solved he'd have posted in a help group and
>> been polite, not insulting. Or sent in a bug report
>>
>>> CUPS is a nightmare, and anyone who has had to struggle with it knows
>>> that.
>>>
>>> So COLA-Nuts, who is going to be the first one to call Mr. Raymond and
>>> idiot?
>>
>>
>> There are no COLA-Nuts here, and Mr Raymond's complaints are not exactly
>> breaking news. It was months ago, probably longer. And he didn't do it in
>> COLA, so why drag him into it?
>>
>>
>>> Seems he points out many of CUPS flaws as far as ease of use and set up
>>> are concerned.
>>>
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html
>>>
>>> and here are some of the comments to Eric's essay including some
>>> beauties from the CUPS developers.
>>>
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/luxury-part-deux.html
>>>
>>> ***************************************************************
>>>
>>> And, for those of you who thought it was all Red Hat or Fedora'a fault
>>> and I was being too hard on the CUPS developers, here's what the lead
>>> guy on CUPS had to say:
>>>
>>> Michael Sweet:
>>>>Overall, I really liked your piece about the problems you've had with
>>>>CUPS. It underscores several things in CUPS that we were not aware of
>>>>(you're the first to say them), but also a lot of things that Red Hat
>>>>might want to address in future Fedora releases.
>>>
>>> *****************************************************
>>
>> And? Eric Raymond is entitled to complain, and is far more likely to be
>> listened to than someone of your type.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So again, who is going to be the first COLA-NUT to stand up to the plate
>>> and call Mr. Eric Raymond an idiot for posting the truth?
>>>
>>>
>> Don't you ever think of anything original. You are so utterly boring. Find
>> some new material. Better still, bugger off.
>
>
> Yet another fine example of the Linux community in action.
>
> This dope is basically telling Eric to RTFM.
>
> Hahh!!

Excuse me, dickhead, but I am saying nothing of the kind. For one, it
would be wasted breath - the article in which he complained is many
months old. Stale news in other words. We had this stupid discussion in
COLA last year, if I recall, started by you.

Mr Raymond is entitled to voice his opinion, particularly on his own
webpages, but no one is forced to accept what he says as the Gospel Truth.
Several others have pointed this out.

You're boring, flatfish. Not ony that, you're utterly dishonest. You have
no real respect for Eric Raymond, you're just using him because he suits
your pathetic anti-Linux agenda.

So, I repeat, bugger off. 

-- 
Kier