Re: An Open Letter To The Linux Enthusiasts.
From: Unruh (unruh-spam_at_physics.ubc.ca)
Date: 4 Jun 2005 21:40:52 GMT
>I've been following these Linux threads with some interest because I
>personally feel that Linux is going to, at some point, overtake
>Microsoft and I also believe that it will be a Linux/Apple world with
>Microsoft a way distant 3rd.
>What I fail to understand however, is why Linux users seem to be so
>nasty, obscene and self righteous. Some of the comments made to the
>fine folks in rec.audio.pro are just uncalled for.
They are not, just as not everyone who is an advocate for MS, for USA or
for anything else is. A few are.
>Is this what Linux advocacy is about?
Of course not. And you must not have read much to ask this question. There
are lots of people who spend a lot of time and effort to help people.
>You people seem to strut your operating system all over the place
>claiming how superior it is to other systems, yet when you are called
>to produce any kind of proof, you go scurrying about calling people
>trolls, changing the subject, going on the offensive and so forth.
>It seems that the Linux ehthusiast's bag of tricks is stuffed to the
>brim with various techniques designed to deflect the shrapnel that
>flies your way.
And why exactly are you posting this? Do you honestly believe it will
contribute to civilised discussion? "strut" "claiming" "scurrying", "bag of
tricks" This is supposed to be an example of how a discussion should be
>That's all well and good, but to put it simply it just makes most of
>you look like a bunch of pablum puking babies.
"pablum Puking babies"? Again, a well considered, rational phrase, intended
to further discussion I assume.
>Most of the discussions in rec.audio.pro revolved around making audio
>at the professional level using Linux.
And how do any of the phrases you have just used do that?
>Who cares if I can alter the source code?
>Who cares if there are 300 different versions of Linux?
>Who even has the time to play with an evaluate them?
>We need a tool to do a particular job and spending $500.00 for a piece
>of software is an investment. I want to USE the noise reduction plugin
>for SoundForge, I don't want to design one nor do I have the skills to
>For 99 percent of the rec.audio.pro community, having the source code
>means nothing and having 300 different versions of Linux just clouds
Fine. Some people do one thing, some another.
>Can Linux do what Samplitude/Sonar/Protools etc can do?
Who knows. Why do you not tell us what it is you want to do, and ask if
there are tools under Linux that do them. No, None of those programs is
ported to linux and there is nothing in Linux that is EXACTLY the same as
But then they are not exactly the same as each other either. What is it you
actually want to do as you certainly do NOT use everything they do.
>Doubtful, but it can come close and for some close is good enough.
>For others, they need to use the heavy guns.
No. They do not need "heavy guns" they need programs which do what they
want or need to do.
>However, the Linux enthusiasts had better start learning how to deal
>with laypeople who are not programmers, but may be experts in THEIR
The advantage of open source is that if you find a program which does most
of what you need, you may well find some 15 year old kid in your
neighborhood who can alter it so it does exactly what you want. Spend the
$500 bucks on him rather than on MS or whoever.
>Doctors running a practice are interested in healing people not sorting
>thorough source code and certainly not using programs that make it
>difficult to share their data with their collegues or insurance
>companies (OpenOffice for example, nice program but everyone on earth
>is using Micorsoft Office).
Which is incompatible with itself. I just watched someone who had developed
a Powerpoint presentation on a Mac try to show it on a PC. It was a
completely garbled mess.
>If I can leave the Linux people with one parting thought, it is to stop
>acting so dammed arrogant and start realizing that not everyone is a
>geek whose life revolves around an operating system that few outside of
>the Linux world even know about.
Actually many know about it, just not very much.
It sounds to me like your problem is more jealousy rather than anything
else. "Maybe those Linux guys are really right and I am too ignorant to
If you want to know what id doable in Linux, it is best to ask nicely and
not go calling people who know what is doable names.
>When you post in groups that have nothing to do with Linux, please
>leave your arrogance at the door.
>From you post it seems that this is right, since there is enough
obnoxiousness inside to go around.