Re: Who's Going To Survive; Linux Truth



Tom B <Tom B <>> wrote in <fhvrq1dtpot6s0hp27gslbo7q6vu0q4h5e@xxxxxxx>:

> I thought I would pass along some insites gathered while trying to
> install a distro on a recent Intel MB purchase. Here's the MB -
>
> http://developer.intel.com/products/motherboard/d915gev/index.htm
>
> No big deal. Integrated graphics, sound & network, all fully
supported
> by Intel Linux drivers. HDD I chose was a Seagate 160 gig SATA. My
> comments below relate the above board. Flame if you want.
>

Its a linux group: thats a given :)


> Redhat Fedora FC-4 - the biggest pile of crap I've ever tried to use.

OUCH! You just made Shadowman cry :(

> kernel panic > type garbage >continue is NOT an acceptable install
> method even if their video drivers worked even half way.
>
Did you try a text based or low-res install? Then search for a more
recent driver later?
Hey if *I* can accomplish that, *you* certainly can.


> Ubuntu installed fairly well but watch the 1024x768 video mode. Their
> refresh rate on the Intel board came up at 85 Hz which can reportedly
> turn your Viewsonic LCD monitor to toast. I haven't found anyone who
> has tried to install the Intel Debian drivers with this distro.
>
Slackware is probably your best bet.


> I tried Debian next. I'm not a Linux pro but I am getting desparate
> for some kind of stable & workable Linux O.S. Check out the sorry
> state of Debian from this article -
>
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1825291,00.asp
>

Standardization benefits everyone. I think that the linux community
should divide up the job into areas based on who does what best.
Then focus on that one area. Only then will they defeat the evil
Micro$uck overlords :)


> I will guarantee the current stable release (Sarge) of Debian will
not
> install a SATA drive on the above board.

But did you *try*?

> In fact their installer has
> no soft landing and you can easily screwing up a dual boot machine so
> nothing works. "Etch" the testing version of Debian does install very
> smoothly but my question is why doesn't the offical stable release
use
> the latest kernel?
>

Because the cutting screamin-bleedin edge is where the development
occurs and the stable one is where things have already been sorted out?
:)


> So who is going to survive?

Micro$uck, Sun, *BSD's, RISC, linux...BEOS!
:)


> The Intel MB is clearly built in China and
> Intel does provide drivers for Red Flag.
>
> http://www.redflag-linux.com/jujiao/enews_view.php?id=1000000036
>

Then why not use that?

> IBM too is cutting deals with Asian developers for use of their
> software products with the Asian distros.
>
> http://www.evermoresw.com/weben/index.jsp
>

IBM sold its SOUL when it gave up the thinkpad to Lenovo.


> Ever hear of Microsoft Office? It and OpenOffice are reportedly being
> rapidly replaced by a much better office suite distributed by
> Evermore
> Software from guess where.

Ummmmmmmm...China? OO.org is the best freebie office suite out there
though.

Happy Jebus tree day.


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decide everything."
-Joseph Stalin
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