Re: Bit Twister: Is this the dhclient-exit-hooks you were talking about?

Dan C <youmustbejoking@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:pan.2006.09.24.20.11.55.162357@xxxxxxxxxxx:

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:26:05 +0000, The Ohmster wrote:

Keep a log/diary of what you change. Backup your /home and /etc
directories, and restore them whenever you do a clean install.

I am finding out that this is a good idea now. I already ran out of
room

Good. Better late than never... ;-)

Well I got that going for me. :)

<snip>

Oh, maybe for your next step, you could learn how to use a Linux
newsreader... I mean, to have been using Linux for "years and
years", and still using Windoze to post to Usenet...? Strange.

...sigh. Okay Dan, here is your reply in slrn. Ya can't get more
"Linux newsreader" than that. :)

True (except maybe for "tin" and "nn"). I enjoy slrn too, when I
don't feel like using Pan.

Hmmm, tin was the reader of old when I first started out with the
Internet. Then it came to rtin, and now, just for nostalgia, I use slrn.
I like when using slrn that I get a neat editor like vim to compose my
posts and replies in and with help from the newsreader newsgroup, now my
vim is in color so that I can see the different quoted text. Very nice
touch.

The reason I use xnews for my Usenet reading is that I really like
the program. The only thing that comes close to it in Linux is Pan.
Xnews has been my newsreader of choice since News Express was
abandoned a long

I've never seen Xnews, but Pan is really nice, and full featured.

If you use a Windows machine, xnews is really nice, especially for a
Linux user like yourself. It is similar to pan but very rich and
powerful. If you can learn how to use a score file and know how to use
regex, it does not get any more powerful than xnews. I am not an expert
at either score files but I can use them effectivly, or regex (Now that
is something that I positively stink at!), but I can get xnews to do a
lot, a real lot. Very neat interface too. It comes as a zip file, unzip
into whatever directory you want to use, a good suggestion would be "C:
\Program Files\Xnews", and then run xnews.exe to get started. It just
gets better and better after that, especially if you read the manual and
check out some of the google links on advanced configuration.

http://xnews.newsguy.com/

Always use the latest TEST version because the auther, Luu Tran, hardly
ever updates his release version. Xnews for sure blows away any of the
commercial newsreaders for windows, IMHO. Linux geeks will love it
because so much is configurable if you know wtf you are doing. :)

<snip>

I remember how exciting it was to actually tag all parts of a binary
file and then try to bring them down to my home directory on the
remote UNIX machine, then uudecode it all, then bring it down to my
at home machine with Z-modem, and then, if everything all worked out,
you had a gif or jpeg image that you could look at or maybe even a
video file that

Yes, I remember those days (fondly), too.

Yah, remember all that hassle and how exciting it was? :)

Anyway, that is why I use Xnews primarily and not a Linux newsreader.
I have more screen room on the Windows machine, the machine is a
better and more powerful computer, and I just like Xnews.

Perhaps you should dual-boot the more powerful machine, and enjoy
Linux on the big monitor... Would be a good way to get FC5 installed,
and not risk your FC3 setup while doing it.


I have too much stuff that relies on commercial Windows to get much day
to day use out of Linux. Most of my day to day stuff is all windows.
Games, for one, and I cannot live without MS Office, although Open Office
is a pretty darned good substitute. What I like best about Linux is
having a usable, working, Linux gateway, router, server, and firewall. I
love vsftp to share files with others, it never crashes or has any kind
of security breach, apache just rocks all out for a web server, I tried
some of the Windows variants, the only good one for me is apache in Linux
and the Linux FTP servers. I tried Serve-U and although it looks pretty
good on the surface, what a piece of crashing garbage it is. Well, what
do you expect from an OS like MS Windows anyways? <g>
(Although XP is pretty darned good so far. Not as good as Linux for
security and stability though.)

XP Pro comes with IIS and you get a web server and FTP server with that
but it is restricted to just a few users and like anything else MS, you
have to start counting out money in the four digit range to actually
purchase any kind of server software that is worth a dam, I am just not
going to do it, even if I could.

When I used to dual boot Linux and Windows back in the old days, I would
hardly ever get to use Linux because I had to go back to Windows
constantly and it was just not worth the hassle. I was able to share
files with a FAT32 partition but even that was not enough. The strong
point of Linux is security and server applications and for that, I run a
full time Linux machine and keep a day to day Windows XP machine. With a
working Linux network machine, I get to learn Linux in a meaningful way,
with daemons and servers that I really do need to be running and
configured properly, rather than just to experiment with occasionally.

What I do plan to do however is to get a nice 21" monitor for my Linux
machine so that I can use it more frequently, live, right on the machine,
rather than ssh into it with Putty as I do now. That would be really cool
and then I will have the best of both worlds. With the small monitor that
I have on the machine now, I tend to gravitate to the XP machine rather
than use the Linux machine directly. That will change when I get a little
extra cash and can make it to the Market Pro computer show. There is a
monitor dude there that sells 21" monitors for a hundred dollars or so. I
got a nice Hitachi one for my mom for like $130. What a deal! Now I just
have to get another one for myself.

So, when I get the new 200Gb hard drive, FC5 will become a reality with a
fresh install and I will then mount the original drive as /mnt/old_system
to pick and choose what I need and that seems like a pretty good way to
go. I can hardly wait!

If you use Windows at all, do bother to download a zip file of xnews and
you will see just how "linux like" it can be. Really good stuff for a
knowledgeable Linux geek. The only complaint I have with it is that if
you visit a very large binary newsgroup with a million or more headers,
it will choke your system. For that, a program like Newsbin cannot be
beat for Windows.
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