Re: Single-app Linux install?



On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:38:42 -0600, Peabody wrote:

As will soon be obvious, I just told you all I know about Linux.

I have gone wireless for the first time with a new Toshiba laptop
and wireless router, and would like to know who else is in the
neighborhood. I understand that to sniff the access points that
don't broadcast their SSIDs, you have to run Linux - because, for
some reason, only the Linux wireless drivers can put the card into
promiscuous mode.

So, with no offense intended to anyone here, all I really want to do
at this point is run just one Linux application (Kismet appears to
be the one) every now and then. And the question is whether I can
get from here to there (1) at all, and (2) without reinventing the
wheel or messing up my Windows setup.

The laptop is a Toshiba L35-S2171. Celeron M 420, 512m shared ram,
running XP Home. The built-in wireless card has a sticker that says
AR5BMB5, but it shows up in Device Manager as an Atheros AR5005G. I
also have an external USB hard drive, formatted in FAT-32, that I
use for backups.

I assume that in addition to some form of Linux distribution, I
would also need to find the hardware drivers for the laptop's
keyboard, display, and wireless card (and USB drive?), as well as
Kismet itself.

I wouldn't think so. They should work 'out of the box'. I have an atheros
based Dlink card which did so upon install of Ubuntu 6.06. kbd, display
usb drives are usually no problem at all.


I would appreciate any opinions anyone might want to offer as to
whether this can reasonably be done, and how, by a newbie. It would
be really helpful if there was a link to a How-to on this subject
for rank beginners. Everything I've found so far just assumes a
level of knowledge that I don't have, and the lingo is just
impenetrable.

I've used 'wifi-radar' to observe all the groups in the neighborhood.


I would also like to know whether this could be done without
involving a hard drive at all - if Linux and the drivers and Kismet
could be put onto one CD or DVD, so that I could just boot to that
when I need to run this one program.

I would suggest you try booting the Ubuntu Live/install CD. I think it may
do all you need. You might want to try to latest Knoppix Live CD or Live
DVD as well - I've not tried it recently, but it has a history of very
good hardware detection. If you find things you'd like to add, there is a
section in 'Knoppix Hacks' for O'Reilly about remastering - i.e. making
your own tailored version. It is also possible to install to an external
hard disk or flash drive.

I don't understand your fear of 'involving a hard drive'. I've installed
dual boot systems with MS on many machines and never had any problems at
all. You may also wish to investigate 'colinux' which allows you to
install Linux on your MS system - and so does cygwin, for that matter.


Any help would be appreciated.

.



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