Re: Mandrake 8.1 Desktop Gone



On 29 Apr 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux, in article
<1177858091.824327.218410@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ffitz2@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

I just wanted to close this out in case any one came along after me
with the same problem with the MS IE 7 hacking the ftp security.

The problem isn't windoze - it's the server configuration

First of all, thank you "Old guy" from another old guy that really
appreciated your guidance.

You are quite welcome!

The mandrake 8.1 distribution included proftpd. I don't know if
it is a flaw in the that sample config file, or in that distributions
proftpd code, or in how I set up the user DefaultRoot, but when
I installed the current proftpd, and migrated the config file
settings to the new example, the problem of MS IE 7 being able to
get to root went away.

That's what we're trying to do. Good! I'm assuming all were using
the same (or identical) accounts on the server.

I tried to navigate to root on the old proftpd server using WSFTP,
command line ftp, MS IE 6, and other ftp tools, and only MS IE 7
would access root.

Now I still can't figure out why there would be a difference. As FTP
is a ASCII based network protocol, what I would have suggested is to
try putting a packet sniffer on the 8.1 server, and capture the
commands and responses given to each of those clients. (The actual
"over the wire" commands are given in section 4.1 of RFC0959.) It's
not impossible that there is a bug in IE7 that isn't in IE6. but that
should be controlled by the server fake root position - "above here,
you can not go". Geez, I haven't seen the WSFTP client in _years_!

Installing the current proftpd and setting up the config file using
the new sample as a base fixed the problem.

That's what we're after, but it would be interesting to know _why_
it fixed things. This _could_ be a standardization problem. Early in
the history of Linux, every damn distribution had their own ideas about
how things really should be configured - where certain file were
located, and so on. This is less of a problem with modern versions.

I will continue to advise the customer to upgrade to a more current
linux platform... but I doubt that will happen.

That's regrettable, but it's all to common. "I don't need $EXPENSIVE
anti-virus software - my win98 came with a ninety day trial version.
Yes, but this is 2007. So?" Heard it before.

Cost really isn't a problem. There are many GPL versions of the several
"enterprise level" Linux commercial distributions, and these can have a
support life over five years. The problem is "change" (and no software
update looks the same as the previous versions - whether MS-DOS, Windoze
or any of the commercial {registered} UNIX products). Yes, I love my
1964 Pontiac Grand Prix, but rarely drive it as it's a gas hog and the
cost of maintenance is brutal - never mind trying to find parts. The
1952 Chevy pickup I had was even worse.

Old guy
.



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