Re: Eye Candy (was Re: Beryl -- can it be installed with apt-get / synaptic?)

On 2007-05-06, Stefan Patric <tootek2@xxxxxxxxx> rambled on thusly:

[snip]

mean that I think GUIs should be abolished. I use it more than I do the
terminal. (I switched to Linux from the Amiga. So, a GUI has been my

Yeah, me too. Actually, I went:

DOS 3.3 -> DOS 6.2 -> Windows 3.1 -> AmigaOS 1.4 -> AmigaOS 2.0 -> AmigaOS
2.1 -> Windows NT 4.0 -> Redhat 5.x. And I've mostly been on Linux since.

predominate computer interface for 20+ years.) But what little more
unique new features Beryl has over the standard GUIs, features that I
have no need for at the present, are not significant enough for me to
switch.

Fair enough.

For example, truly transparent windows, the improved task switcher, and
the window zoom feature.

Features I have no need for. I setup Beryl on my "testing" system just
to play with it over several days. Nothing there that was really useful
or advantageous enough to entice me into switching.

I see it as an evolution. Just like a graphical environment allowed users
to evolve the way they used a console (it is very common for hard-core
console users to have multiple consoles open on an X-session, for example),
adding 3D and advanced effects improves upon this. Like the example I gave
earlier in this thread: having a transparent terminal window open above
another window that one wants to refer to. No need to switch between
windows; you can see the data that you need through the window you are
using.

Currently, there is still that choice, but sometime in the future and not
that far away, I predict, the 2D GUI will fade into history, and 3D will
be the standard. Perhaps, by then, it will be oriented more to function
and less to flash. Right now, I consider the 3D GUI more a toy than a
useful tool.

Here's circumstantial evidence that there'll always be the option for 2D:
one can still install twm in most every distro available.

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In our own time, "The Dictionary of National Biography" notes that his
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She'd -- O she'd kiss me too.
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Falero, lero, loo.
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The fives did fit her shoe.
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Royalist poet, heard of Wither's imminent execution, he went to the King and
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"Because that so long as Wither lived, Denham would not be accounted the
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