Re: Xbuntu

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:39:54 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote:

On 28 Sep 2007 16:35:31 +0200
Mark South <mark.south@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wasted precious bandwith with:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:11:33 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote:

On 27 Sep 2007 18:03:37 +0200
Mark South <mark.south@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wasted precious bandwith
with:

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:35:15 -0600, §ñühw¤£f
wrote:>
On 26 Sep 2007 17:25:01 +0200
Mark South <mark.south@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wasted precious bandwith
with:

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:51:39 -0600,
§ñühw¤£f> >wrote:>
Also look at Absolute Linux, which will run like a rocket
on> >> >your> hardware but still has (nearly) all the
conveniences and> >> >comforts.

But no built in wifi, no automounting of pcmcia cards...

Wifi support is there. I have a laptop in the next room
connected> right now. Using a PCMCIA card. So I have no idea
what you mean.>
Did you have to get madwifi and install that first?

This one's running on ndiswrapper.

Looks like I'll have to read the manual for the ndiswrapper...

A secret about ndiswrapper: you don't need the manual. Just type:

ndiswrapper -h

and it'll tell you everything you need to know.

Heres another secret: I found that if you type "man" in front of
commands you get info :)

Yeah :-)

But with ndiswrapper there isn't a rich set of option to worry about,
either.

Now if only I could just type "GUI VERSION" in front of linux
commands and have a widget pop up that made life easier...

Let us know when you get it working ;-)

It'd be nice if I could just pop the card in and have a nice
GUI> > to configure it with...the pcmcia-linux site says my
Netgear> > WG511T*is* linux compatible.

Wi-fi Radar and RutilT are great for setting up connections.
Absolute has WFR and ndiswrapper included.

Command line stuff I presume.

WFR=WiFi Radar. Nice little GUI app for connecting to wireless
networks.

OMG! Some one musta heard my wish!
:)

I've used it on Mint and Ubuntu, it's also on Zenwalk IIRR.

If you meant "automounting of removeable drives", 12.oX does
that> if you have HAL automounting on.

Well I think I prolly do a "mkdir /mnt/sandisk" and then
mess> > around in fstab to get it to work. I'm learning slowly...

With HAL and udev you should not need to do any of that. Which
is> the point of having them.

Well the automounting is turned on and the pcmcia card is in the
slot but it dosent show anything in Rox.

I'm not sure we're communicating here. A PCMCIA/Cardbus card is a
device, not a drive. (Unless it holds a drive - is that what
we're talking about?) You won't see it in Rox.

After reading some stuff in vector linux and on the web about how
linux deals with memory cards it indicated that they are treated
like ide drives. So if I do mount -t vfat /dev/hde1 something
happens...

OK, this is a memory card in a PCMCIA adaptor, right? I have some of
those adaptors lying around, must try them sometime.

modprobe memory_cs and modprobe ide_cs produce info also

If you want help on that then you could post that info here.

Also cardmgr and cardctl arnt included...funny how they left
those out.

Not funny, simply correct. cardmgr and cardctl from pcmcia-cs use
the older, deprecated, PCMCIA kernel interface. For modern
kernels, you should be using pcmciautils, which does everything
from the pccard command. This is what Absolute has.

Ah...I'm using vector 4.3 on this laptop here. The one thats new and
I cant use to do anything useful like surf the net has the HAL and
other stuff on it like you said. You know, Puppy is much easier than
Absolute. No offence but...

Vector 4.3 was quite neat, but it was released in a pretty buggy state.

I think the present state of my feelings about Puppy have been fairly
thoroughly discussed quite recently :-)

On the same hardware, Absolute is way faster than Puppy though.

I put it on a compaq Duron 900 laptop and while its "fast"
its> > also pretty sparse on features that are included with a kde>
desktop.

So is anything else that doesn't have KDE, and the OP was
asking> about an XFCE-based distro.

Ugh...xfce is horrid. He wants zenwalk linux then...minislack
became"zenwalk" and decided to make xfce the default for
them.> > KDE is much easier.

Actually, I quite like XFCE, but it has gotten nearly as porky
as> the other desktop environments.

Today I set up an old box to serve as a testbed for some stuff
I'm> messing with. Debian Lenny base install, add xorg-server,
Firefox, and fvwm-crystal and it's a good-looking
semi-desktop-environment setup that runs like a rocket on a
1GHz> P3 and takes up 1.1GB of disk.

I bet.

After a day or so of using it I wonder why I even bother with even
vaguely new hardware. This setup is fast and pretty and all the bits
are from last century.

If I had that I'd stick BeOS Max on that and go back to my cave, happy
:)
Assuming it worked of course.

If you feel like experimenting closer to home (or should that be /home ?)
then try a BSD or two.

Absolute seems aimed at the "educational" market. Maybe its not
really for average users.

My impression was that it is designed to run well on modest hardware
and at the same time to provide a generally useful subset of Slackware
that contains the programs and tools used by most people on the
desktop: browse, email, chat, write letters.

It'd prolly run on this old toshiba PII but once I get something set up
I dont like to change it.

I have some machines for serious work that I don't mess with too often,
and a few others that get a lot of experimentation. A lot of Linux
distros will run well on a P3 600 with 256 or 512 MB, and you can pick
these up for nothing, thanks to MS Vista :-)

But try a few different distros, it's pretty cheap entertainment :-)

Yeah...When I find someting that works (supports stuff I dont want to
spend a month trying to hack) on my "new" compac amd 900mhz laptop I'll
stop using this one.

An additional distro tip: AntiX (lightweight version of Mepis) announced a
new RC on Distrowatch this week, and it runs rather well on my ancient
Toshiba Satellite (PII 233 MHz, 128 MB, 6 GB disk). It's an installable
liveCD, has a batch of wireless drivers included with a newish kernel
(2.6.22) and takes a little over a GB of disk to install. I'm favourably
impressed. Consider taking a look.

Cheers,
Mark
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The guy with no signature
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