Re: OPINION: What are the best Linux C++ IDE's out there?
From: AM Christophe (xxxx_at_freesurf.fr)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:08:29 +0200
All people that are saying that IDE and RAD tools are not as interesting as
command line are egoistic people that don't understand the market nor the
stakes of graphical design. You are like some MS or MAC programmers that
only understand graphical interface and don't want to see any command in a
terminal. Your minds are closed and you think like fundamentalists.
If you don't like graphical interface don't use X11, don't use Xemacs, don't
use kde or gnome or anything else that rely on graphics. Don't even use your
PC as your are looking at your monitor at present.
The fact is that Linux doesn't have any good GNU RAD/IDE tools. All present
tools and libraries are scatted as are their documentations. Newcomers don't
find their way easily in this ball of tangled sewing yarns. This fact
doesn't irritate you as you were their when those libraries first come out
or you have already spend/loose a lot of your time learning them. Let see my
case: I'm a Windows VC++/VB/Delphi/Java programmer. I never spend much time
in learning SDK. I can't! What should I use to work as easily as on my
previous OS? Here is the reply from this newsgroup: go to hell and loose all
your time learning XXX libraries, docs, . If you don't want to, go back to
Someone have said that MS doesn't have good IDE and compilers. Is it a joke
? Please, spend some times with Windows RAD tools and SDKs or use Delphi a
little and stop this stupid battle. If not, you will loose this war. I'm
really open in mind and I have switch from W2000 to Linux for one of my PC
(not the one were I'm writing at present because I like Word dictionary and
grammatical/spelling auto correction features). Should I build my own
tools/libraries to be happy using Linux ? If so, I will do the same things
as everyone newcomers: spend time again and again and scatter my little
'open source' force in a project that will never end.
You know, the big resemblance between us is the fact that we know very well
the OS were our practice of informatics has born. We all have a different
informatics culture that can be merge in order to improve the whole Linux
What I would like to see is a complete waking up of GNU so that they can
propose really powerful and easy libraries / RAD tools for management of the
whole Linux system. A sort of Java library set + RAD tools + X11 replacement
+ ... but something finished, not in beta as always. Something I can rely
one. The same way they encourage Gnome. Something that is like they say in
Linux publicity: really stable and bug free.
I heard of people talking about bugs in MS. I found bugs into Linux
distribution as well. At my beginning, they were more numerous in Linux.
what I didn't expect. Yes, I don't use Debian stable at present as this
version of Debian is not enough up to date and practical ! I want to have an
interesting OS not a dinosaur.
I don't like X11 programming, X11 configuration, X11 tools, X11 way of
thinking. I don't like GTK, GTK-- or any other graphical toolset. Only QT
and wxwindows are interesting and reply to most of my expectations.
Why can't I found a Java like libraries in C++ ? VCF project ?
Why can't I found a good IDE/RAD ? The reply is certainly already in the
beginning of this message.
Why open source projects can't fusion in order to build a complete and
powerful operating system instead of having too much individual way of
thinking ? The reply for the last question is certainly because of egoism
of project managers that want their programming library to be the ONE and
unique. MS talks about big towns and countries politics. GNU/Linux talks
about village and individuality.
Please, GNU teams, make some order in all this. You have today the power to
do this and people as me would like this way of thinking. We need
structured, standards and human collaboration and best spirit !