Re: C++ or Java ?

From: alex goldman (hello_at_spamm.er)
Date: 06/28/05 

Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:51:47 -0700

Luc The Perverse wrote:

> "William Ahern" <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> wrote in message
> news:kf86p2-e7r.ln1@wilbur.25thandClement.com...
>> Luc The Perverse <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m@cc.usu.edu> wrote:
>>> Well it has been decided.
>>
>>> Despite my lack of familiarity with java - I went to download the java
>>> SDK,
>>> and listed right below it are a bunch of free libraries, a media
>>> utility, a
>>> speech recognition/synthesizer, image library and even a free encryption
>>> toolkit. And it's all completely cross platform as far as I can tell.
>>>
>>> C++ would not be able to do this for me.
>>
>> I'm not trying to disparage Java the language, but take note that Java is
>> not as cross-platform as is advertised. I cannot run modern Java
>> applications either on my server OpenBSD/Alpha or on my personal computer
>> Linux/PPC. The latest (or even remotely recent) VM's just don't work on
>> either of those two platforms, and many more.
>
> AHHH!! Don't tell me that.
>
> I don't feel any closer to making a decision than when I first posted this
> thread - even though the topic appears to be running dry.
>
> I think the problem is that there is no clear cut answer, and because I
> don't have experience with this I don't know the right questions to ask.
>
> I think my only course of action is to write all the sample applications I
> suggested in both C++ and Java and then come back here and post an article
> I have written about what I learned and hopefully help someone out in the
> future :P
>
> I love C++ and the thought that Java could be better than it in any way is
> disconcerting. But I am a realist, and I realize that if Java had no
> redeeming factors, it would not have become popular.
>

That's because there's no perfect answer. You have to make trade-offs w.r.t.
ease-of-use, ease-of-learning, execution speed, robustness, portability,
compilation speed, and so on. It doesn't have to be this way, but that's
how things are. Look up "Brandon J. Van Every" on Google groups, and try
not to repeat his ongoing mistake.

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