Re: C or C++ for FOSS/linux?

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:09:40 +0100) it happened Sebastian 'lunar'
Wiesner <basti.wiesner@xxxxxxx> wrote in <en3ek4$aqs$00$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Well, because when writing a gui app, the results of your code are
displayed in gui components. So why not use data structures, that can
be displayed in a gui without the need to reformat them?

I am not sure, this is really C++ talk to me.
I like to make things the way I like them :-)

int *i = (int *) malloc (100*sizeof(int));

Right.


I don't know much of C programming, but that is known to me as the way
you allocate an array of 100 integers on the heap in C.
Well, the c++ way of doing that is just simpler to me:

int *i = new int[100]

Yes 'new' is a useful statement.


And for the speed: When referring to the performance of a program, C++
as fast as C. When you refer to the speed of development, it's hard to
judge, because it mostly depends on the experience and ability of a
programmer.

It slows me down and makes no sense to me to write
something::something_else

I can design and sell hardware, add the software as GPL no problem.
That software will only work with that hardware anyways.

That case is - in my opinion - covered by the GPL. Having licensed their
toolkit under GPL, Trolltech can do exactly nothing against you, if you
write such a software. But IANAL, so have no proof for my statements.
If in doubt, you should ask Trolltech itself...

Exactly

Qt 4 is the worst bloat I have seen in Linux since Linux 0.8 came
out.

Well, than trying compiling the glibc or maybe a server suite like samba
or apache. That would take hours, too...

I have done all that on the same machine, no way as long as Qt4!

Well, that's your taste. There are millions of other people out there
(including me), that think different.

Sure, and many do not think at all.

nice statement...
I hope, you did not extend that on my person, too.

I am sure you do not think sometimes too, as do I.

Yes, preferences preferences.

Yes preferences! In the end, that's all that matters. People use
software, because the like it and _prefer_ it over other software.
People write software, because they _prefer_ their own thing over
others. And most people _prefer_ to use a modern software like they
prefer to use a modern technology...
That's the reason, why we're using electrical lights instead of gas
lamps... and dvds instead of video tapes and ipods instead of a
walkman... and Suse 10.2 instead of 7.xx (not that recent suse versions
are better ;) )
It's called "evolution"...

Well you can argue Vista is evolution after Xp, and MS will confirm that,
but for sure it brings nothing _new_ to the user, and has him pay
dearly, and has him / her buy more expensive, more power consuming hardware
on top, leading to global warming (they say) that will kill us all (they say).

It can be argued that -as the dinosaurs did, got bigger and bigger and then died-
that your vision of 'evolution' is just that.
I see for example all sorts of *** happening in Linux kernel 2.6, that are annoying,
and were not in 2.4 kernels, are impossible to fathom for me without
setting apart a few weeks for it, so maybe everybody should do a reality
check every now and then and stop adding more and more stuff, at least until existing
stuff works OK.
I know this will never happen, so then evolution in your sense leads to the end of Linux as
it does to the end of MS OS.



I still have an old Suse-7.?? somewhere on a disk, can always boot in
that. That will run KDE and khexedit.

Well, it seems, that it's your personal preference to unlink from the
modern world.

That is a lot of bull, I hhave always been at the front, or just that one step ahead,
just as a dummy loading the next kernel (bugs) or latest commercial distro is _not_ progres.
BTW I use grml now (www.grml.org) but totally modified so it does what I want and does
not do what I do not want.

I guess, that further discussion about this topic is pointless...

You can never win.

Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters.
(Rosa Luxemburg)

To the US general freedom is:
The freedom to attack whenever and wherever we want.
(quoted from one US general last year).

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