Re: C or C++ for FOSS/linux?

On a sunny day (Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:21:52 +0100) it happened Sebastian 'lunar'
Wiesner <basti.wiesner@xxxxxxx> wrote in <en34pg$374$03$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@xxxxxxxxx> typed

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:31:26 -0600) it happened Beowulf
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C or C++, which is better to learn and improve upon for a goal of
contributing to open source projects, writing linux drivers, helping
with linux and FOSS in general?

C.
C++ is not a language but speech disability.

You seem to have a serious thinking disability, if you meant this
statement serious...

I mean it serious, yes I fail to see the beauty of C++.


Stroussup could not really program, that became clear to me after
reading his book. It needs too much text, to many :: and overloading
sucks and is for dummies.

no comment...

Of course MS uses it, that is why MS is so bloated.

The reason, why MS C++ applications are bloated, is not C++ itself. MS
simply never understood, how to design libraries. Therefore the MFC
library is nearly unusable. However, C++ in combination with the VCL
library from Borland or the QT Toolkit is a very elegant and fast
language, even on the "bloated" windows system.
The Windows API is even worse than MFC, although it has been written in
your favourite language C.

You mention Qt.
It is evil.
It (Qt4) took almost 4 hours to compile on a Duron 950.
I have no idea what it gives for that price, I use xforms,
it compiles in seconds, has only one small lib (libforms).
And has all the stuff I need and allows one to add stuff,
and is full GPL.
And written in C, hasa fdesigng GUI designer to write C code for ye if
you cannot or do not want to write it yourself.
Qt 4 is the worst bloat I have seen in Linux since Linux 0.8 came out.

Reminds me to erase that Qt stuff, I need diskspace, downloading Linux
for PS3 atm.
ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/yellowdog/iso/
bottom of the page
yellowdog-5.0-phoenix-20061208-PS3.iso
Maybe I should leave Qt, is KDE ported to QT4 already?
I hope not.
khexedit was about the only useful program in KDE for me.
Oh and kworldview.
So much for bloat.





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