Re: Nokia to Acquire Trolltech to Accelerate Software Strategy



On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:15:26 GMT) it happened Chris
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Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:27:35 -0000) it happened AZ Nomad
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How about getting the return key on your keyboard replaced?
Not everybody enjoys scrolling through 650 character lines.

It is not clear to me what advantage Qt bloat would be on a mobile phone.

I've used QT in the past and I found it really good to use. The concept of
signals and slots is very intuitive as one example. I believe that the
cross-platform (write once, compile many) framework is very convenient. I
find it a good balance between portability and runtime efficiency.

The bloat that you mention as well as compile time were an issue for me. The
size of the apps I am writing are pretty small and not very complex. But,
using the .moc "pre-compiling" just seemed to slow me down. For example, a
hello world app should compile instantly :). For that reason I switched
over to FLTK (http://www.fltk.org).

I am using xforms, http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/xforms/
it is extremely small, uses callbacks for the GUI, and so far I have been
able to write anyting I wanted with it.
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2447324 2006-01-31 14:10 /usr/X11R6/lib/libforms.a
2.5MB
But only Linux of course.



But, when I write more complex
apps/systems my preference is to use QT since it offers more than just a
widget toolkit while still maintaining the "write-one, compile many"
methodology.

What surprised me the most was the selling price. For some reason, the $151M
CAD seems pretty small.I don't know why, but I think the company would be
worth more. For example, KDE is based on QT. I know there is no
direct/formal connection between the two other than KDE _uses_ QT. But
since KDE is one of the top desktop environments (if not #1??) for Linux,
and perhaps for Unix (??), I would have thought that would increase QT's
perceived value? I guess the key word is "perceived".

Well, somebody wants a MS lookalike.... I use fvwm in X.

Last time I tried compiling QT4, was on a Duron 950MHz, took about 4 hours.
Totally insane.

Imagine I am now writing embedded, quite powerfull, stuff in 4kB micro, that
does also several things at the same time (no OS), and that includes RS232
communication, and text LCD output, analog inputs etc..

They should be very happy somebody was dumb enough to buy that Qt, it
is prety braindead as is, and no future exists for bloat.

But I did not expect Nokia to be so dumb.
All it will do is make your mobile phone slower, use more resources,
less reliable, use more power, no.

But... ebay bought Skype too, for way too much, aint it.

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